Re: Handling spam on gnu.org mailing lists

2001-04-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Greg A Woods <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [ On , April 7, 2001 at 17:10:34 (-0700), Russ Allbery wrote: ] >> I think the gnu.org -bug lists should be open to all comers. -bug >> lists are by nature high-noise, and people who can't deal with a bit of >> spam aren't going to be able to deal with

Re: Handling spam on gnu.org mailing lists

2001-04-07 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On , April 7, 2001 at 17:10:34 (-0700), Russ Allbery wrote: ] > Subject: Handling spam on gnu.org mailing lists > > I think the gnu.org -bug lists should be open to all comers. -bug lists > are by nature high-noise, and people who can't deal with a bit of spam > aren't going to be able to deal

Re: Spam, Bacon, Eggs & Spam (was: Re: yada $1.4M yada)

2001-04-07 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On , April 7, 2001 at 19:52:01 (-0400), Paul D. Smith wrote: ] > Subject: Re: Spam, Bacon, Eggs & Spam (was: Re: yada $1.4M yada) > > I find subscriber-only lists annoying and elitist, and I don't subscribe > to them. That's too bad. With most modern MLM software they are one of the very good

Re: Spam, Bacon, Eggs & Spam (was: Re: yada $1.4M yada)

2001-04-07 Thread D. Stimits
Russ Allbery wrote: > > Paul D Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Savannah doesn't support forums; the site explicitly says they're not > > needed since we have mailing lists. > > > I agree with them: web-based forums suck compared to mailing lists. I > > wish more SourceForge groups woul

Re: Spam, Bacon, Eggs & Spam (was: Re: yada $1.4M yada)

2001-04-07 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Saturday, April 7, 2001 at 20:43:07 (+0200), Tim Van Holder wrote: ] > Subject: Spam, Bacon, Eggs & Spam (was: Re: yada $1.4M yada) > > I agree with the FSF on this one - better let through 10 spams than block > 1 important mail; similar to your argument, most everyone on gnu.org > mailing li

Re: Spam, Bacon, Eggs & Spam (was: Re: yada $1.4M yada)

2001-04-07 Thread Russ Allbery
Paul D Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Savannah doesn't support forums; the site explicitly says they're not > needed since we have mailing lists. > I agree with them: web-based forums suck compared to mailing lists. I > wish more SourceForge groups would use mailing lists instead of forums

Re: Handling spam on gnu.org mailing lists

2001-04-07 Thread Russ Allbery
D Stimits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Unfortunately, the main and largest spam is only relayed through > gnu.org, after automated mining of subscribers to the list (take a look > at the full header of a few spam emails, you'll find many contain the > gnu.org). I think you're very confused and

Re: Handling spam on gnu.org mailing lists

2001-04-07 Thread D. Stimits
Russ Allbery wrote: > > I think the gnu.org -bug lists should be open to all comers. -bug lists > are by nature high-noise, and people who can't deal with a bit of spam > aren't going to be able to deal with the truckloads of poorly specified > and mostly unusable bug reports either. > > As for

Handling spam on gnu.org mailing lists

2001-04-07 Thread Russ Allbery
I think the gnu.org -bug lists should be open to all comers. -bug lists are by nature high-noise, and people who can't deal with a bit of spam aren't going to be able to deal with the truckloads of poorly specified and mostly unusable bug reports either. As for working mailing lists such as this

Re: Spam, Bacon, Eggs & Spam (was: Re: yada $1.4M yada)

2001-04-07 Thread Paul D. Smith
%% "Tim Van Holder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> In fact I'd hope most such new lists will be set up so that only >> subscribers may post freely to them. I find subscriber-only lists annoying and elitist, and I don't subscribe to them. My company explicitly rewrites all my email so that i

Re: Get your share of $1.4 million!

2001-04-07 Thread D. Stimits
"Greg A. Woods" wrote: > > [ On Friday, April 6, 2001 at 21:59:41 (-0600), D. Stimits wrote: ] > > Subject: Re: Get your share of $1.4 million! > > > > How does garbage like this join and stay on a list? I get a ton of spam > > that indicates it is routed through the gnu.org lists. > > Almost a

Spam, Bacon, Eggs & Spam (was: Re: yada $1.4M yada)

2001-04-07 Thread Tim Van Holder
> Almost all of the spam I get these days comes directly from gnu.org. Same here. > > Can advertisers > > and bulk spammers be removed? > > Officially, no. > > After sending similar complaints months ago (Jan 23, 2001) to the FSF I > just finally tonight got an "official" reply from the vice pr

Re: Get your share of $1.4 million!

2001-04-07 Thread Greg A. Woods
[ On Friday, April 6, 2001 at 21:59:41 (-0600), D. Stimits wrote: ] > Subject: Re: Get your share of $1.4 million! > > How does garbage like this join and stay on a list? I get a ton of spam > that indicates it is routed through the gnu.org lists. Almost all of the spam I get these days comes dir