Re: Confusing/bogus message in config.log

2001-03-29 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Mar 30, 2001, Eric Siegerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 10:33:03PM -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: >> On Mar 29, 2001, "Lars J. Aas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> > AC_PACKAGE_NAME configure AC_PACKAGE_VERSION >> > generated by GNU Autoconf AC_ACVERSION >> >> I lik

Re: Confusing/bogus message in config.log

2001-03-29 Thread Eric Siegerman
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 10:33:03PM -0300, Alexandre Oliva wrote: > On Mar 29, 2001, "Lars J. Aas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > AC_PACKAGE_NAME configure AC_PACKAGE_VERSION > > generated by GNU Autoconf AC_ACVERSION > > I like this one. Except that the copyright notice must appear between >

Re: Confusing/bogus message in config.log

2001-03-29 Thread Alexandre Oliva
On Mar 29, 2001, "Lars J. Aas" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > AC_PACKAGE_NAME configure AC_PACKAGE_VERSION > generated by GNU Autoconf AC_ACVERSION I like this one. Except that the copyright notice must appear between these lines. -- Alexandre Oliva Enjoy Guarana', see http://www.ic.unicamp.b

Re: Confusing/bogus message in config.log

2001-03-29 Thread Lars J. Aas
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 12:25:55PM -0500, Derek R. Price wrote: : Peter's original suggestion seems appropriate, then: : : > configure (AC_PACKAGE_NAME) AC_PACKAGE_VERSION : > generated by GNU Autoconf AC_ACVERSION Another log on the fire :) AC_PACKAGE_NAME configure AC_PACKAGE_VERSION generate

Re: Confusing/bogus message in config.log

2001-03-29 Thread Ralf Corsepius
"Derek R. Price" wrote: > > Tim Van Holder wrote: > > I think we're debating this only because RMS doesn't seem to have left much > room for generated programs Well, RMS's ol' toy bison handles this issue this way (First lines of a bison generated *c): > > /* A Bison parser, made from file.yy

Re: Confusing/bogus message in config.log

2001-03-29 Thread Derek R. Price
Peter Eisentraut wrote: > Quoth the GCS: > > If you *need* to mention the version numbers of libraries which > > (Autoconf is sort of a library...) > > are distributed separately from the package which contains this > program, you can do so by printing an additional line of version

Re: Confusing/bogus message in config.log

2001-03-29 Thread Derek R. Price
Ivan Vlaev wrote: > Sorry if you already discussed it but, what about having both: > configure --version > and > configure --autoconf-version > > at least i don't expect > any-program --version > to dump the version of the compiler used for building it. > > Probably this is matter of which

Re: Confusing/bogus message in config.log

2001-03-29 Thread Derek R. Price
Tim Van Holder wrote: > True. But if you apply 'the program being run', then you need a seperate > version for configure, as it is neither autoconf, nor the package, > really. > I guess that is what it boils down to: do we see 'configure' as a) a > program in its own right, b) an inextricable par

Re: Confusing/bogus message in config.log

2001-03-29 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Lars J. Aas writes: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 08:29:19AM -0500, Derek R. Price wrote: > : I also don't see a reason why it would be very useful to maintain a version > : on a configure script separate from the pacage version. Anyone else? > > If you follow development sources through CVS, it can

Re: Confusing/bogus message in config.log

2001-03-29 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Lars J. Aas writes: > : I would agree, but the GNU standards are pretty clear about this. I think > : the idea was that (e.g.) > : > : `any_program --version | sed -n '1s/^.* \([^ ][^ ]*\)$/\1/p'` > : > : should be able to return something useful with any program of a package. > > The GNU coding

RE: Confusing/bogus message in config.log

2001-03-29 Thread Tim Van Holder
> I must admit that this contains all the relevant information, but > I think it violates the coding standard. The text following the last > space and up until the EOL is supposed to be a version string for the > _program being run_. I would hazard to say that two versions of a > package could h

Re: Confusing/bogus message in config.log

2001-03-29 Thread Ivan Vlaev
Sorry if you already discussed it but, what about having both: configure --version and configure --autoconf-version at least i don't expect any-program --version to dump the version of the compiler used for building it. Probably this is matter of which version is most important, that of co

Re: Confusing/bogus message in config.log

2001-03-29 Thread Derek R. Price
Tim Van Holder wrote: > GNU configure (PACKAGE VERSION) AC_VERSION > > After all, the relevant version number for configure itself, is that > of the autoconf that created it; the name & version of the package > it's intended for are useful extra information. > And since you explicitly call it _GN

Re: Confusing/bogus message in config.log

2001-03-29 Thread Derek R. Price
"Lars J. Aas" wrote: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 08:29:19AM -0500, Derek R. Price wrote: > : I also don't see a reason why it would be very useful to maintain a version > : on a configure script separate from the pacage version. Anyone else? > > If you follow development sources through CVS, it ca

RE: Confusing/bogus message in config.log

2001-03-29 Thread Tim Van Holder
> I also don't see a reason why it would be very useful to maintain > a version on a configure script separate from the pacage version. Figure I might as well chuck in my EUR 0.02 as well: what about GNU configure (PACKAGE VERSION) AC_VERSION After all, the relevant version number for configur

Re: Confusing/bogus message in config.log

2001-03-29 Thread Lars J. Aas
On Thu, Mar 29, 2001 at 08:29:19AM -0500, Derek R. Price wrote: : I also don't see a reason why it would be very useful to maintain a version : on a configure script separate from the pacage version. Anyone else? If you follow development sources through CVS, it can be a good idea, but using AC

Re: Confusing/bogus message in config.log

2001-03-29 Thread Derek R. Price
"Lars J. Aas" wrote: > On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 11:29:14PM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote: > : Lars J. Aas writes: > : > : A Gnits dude would probably prefer > : > : > : > : configure (AC_PACKAGE_NAME) AC_PACKAGE_VERSION > : > : generated by GNU Autoconf AC_ACVERSION > : > > : > Or > : > > : > conf

Re: Confusing/bogus message in config.log

2001-03-29 Thread Lars J. Aas
On Wed, Mar 28, 2001 at 11:29:14PM +0200, Peter Eisentraut wrote: : Lars J. Aas writes: : > : A Gnits dude would probably prefer : > : : > : configure (AC_PACKAGE_NAME) AC_PACKAGE_VERSION : > : generated by GNU Autoconf AC_ACVERSION : > : > Or : > : > configure (AC_PACKAGE_STRING) : > generated by

ANN: aclocal-archive 0.4.3

2001-03-29 Thread Guido Draheim
Hi everyone, I have been updating my aclocal backpacker package, renaming it to "aclocal-archive". Now it can create some rpm files for binary distribution of aclocal macros for your convenience too. I would like to have some comments on the usefulness of the aclocal-archive, idea and I would l