[arch-general] Alps touchpad problems

2012-02-09 Thread mike cloaked
I am trying to get a laptop touchpad working properly with arch fully up to date as of today. The machine is a recent Dell Vostro and has an Alps touchpad. I can't get vertical scrolling to work in KDE, and the mouse cursor occasionally moves erratically. I have seen previous posts some time back

Re: [arch-general] Alps touchpad problems

2012-02-10 Thread mike cloaked
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 12:44 AM, Caio Geraldi Conechoni wrote: > I had similar problem with a Dell Inspiron n5110, Alps touchpad. I bought > it last october, and by then this psmouse-alps package didn't exist, so I > got vertical scrolling to work using this module instead: > > http://aur.archlin

Re: [arch-general] Alps touchpad problems

2012-02-10 Thread mike cloaked
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Paul Gideon Dann wrote: > Hi Mike, > > I have a Latitude E5520, and I suspect we have the same touchpad. > > This is the Kernel bug you'll be interested in: > https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14660 > > This is the patch I've been using to add support for

Re: [arch-general] Alps touchpad problems

2012-02-10 Thread mike cloaked
On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 10:42 AM, mike cloaked wrote: > On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Paul Gideon Dann wrote: >> Hi Mike, >> >> I have a Latitude E5520, and I suspect we have the same touchpad. >> >> This is the Kernel bug you'll be interested in: >&

Re: [arch-general] Alps touchpad problems

2012-02-11 Thread mike cloaked
On Sat, Feb 11, 2012 at 2:52 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 11.02.2012 15:30, schrieb Caio Geraldi Conechoni: >> You could, just like i'm doing, hold kernel upgrades so you don't need to >> rebuild the package every time... Just a suggestion :) > > You can put the module to > /lib/modules/extramod

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-26 Thread mike cloaked
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 11:12 AM, Andrea Crotti wrote: > I'm getting very close to a final solution :) > > So now the only thing left to do is to make sure that these are executed > (this is my .xprofile): > > if [ -x "$(which gpg-agent)" ]; then >    if test -f $HOME/.gpg-agent-info && \ >      

Re: [arch-general] moving away from gnome

2012-02-26 Thread mike cloaked
On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Andrea Crotti wrote: >> Would it not be easier to switch to KDM or one of the other login >> managers rather than use GDM if you have moved away from Gnome? >> > > Is kdm in kde-workspace-base? > If yes it also has quite a lot of dependencies which I don't really

Re: [arch-general] [signoff] linux-3.3.1-1

2012-04-10 Thread mike cloaked
On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 1:21 PM, Sébastien le Preste de Vauban wrote: >> > > Since last kernel upgrade, 3.3.1-1-ARCH I am having some trouble with ath5k, > like random disconnects only a reboot allows me to reconnect to the AP. > Now I downgraded to 3.2.14-1 and wifi is working fine. This is a we

Re: [arch-general] [signoff] linux-3.3.1-1

2012-04-11 Thread mike cloaked
On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Sébastien le Preste de Vauban wrote: >> I believe it will be fixed in the next release... >> > you mean 3.3.2 or 3.4 ? I saw a post that 3.4 will have a fix. -- mike c

Re: [arch-general] update problem maybe ..

2012-06-07 Thread mike cloaked
On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 8:04 PM, P .NIKOLIC wrote: > Hi > > Just done a "pacman -Syu"  i get the following error below > is there a recomended way around the problem of  var/lock and var/run > is it safe to delete them to update . > > According to the posts I saw the way forward is to do (as root):

[arch-general] Dovecot problem after update today

2012-06-07 Thread mike cloaked
I have just updated my system earlier today - it seems to boot OK apart from a warning and Fail flag where the daemons start (in the list before graphical X starts) about an erroneous line 1 in /usr/lib/tmpfiles.d/dovecot.conf which only has one line in my system: d /var/run/dovecot 0755 root dovec

Re: [arch-general] Dovecot problem after update today

2012-06-08 Thread mike cloaked
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:19 AM, Yclept Nemo wrote: > https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/30181 > > Non-breaking space, 0x00a0 needs to be replaced with actual space, 0x0020 Thanks for the link - I'll follow the bug. -- mike c

Re: [arch-general] Dovecot problem after update today

2012-06-08 Thread mike cloaked
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:19 AM, Yclept Nemo wrote: > https://bugs.archlinux.org/task/30181 > > Non-breaking space, 0x00a0 needs to be replaced with actual space, 0x0020 The problem I had is fixed in version dovecot 2.1.7-4 Fast and fabulous! -- mike c

[arch-general] Shutdown issue - after updates yesterday

2012-06-15 Thread mike cloaked
After updating my systems yesterday I am getting a line with a fail at shutdown at the sigterm/killterm point on the screen after exiting from X. I can't find anything in the logs directly related to this but I do have in /var/log/errors/log: Jun 15 10:58:22 localhost NetworkManager[1441]: nm_sup

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown issue - after updates yesterday

2012-06-15 Thread mike cloaked
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:04 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > After updating my systems yesterday I am getting a line with a fail at > shutdown at the sigterm/killterm point on the screen after exiting > from X. > > I can't find anything in the logs directly related to this but I d

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown issue - after updates yesterday

2012-06-15 Thread mike cloaked
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 5:33 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 4:04 PM, mike cloaked wrote: >> After updating my systems yesterday I am getting a line with a fail at >> shutdown at the sigterm/killterm point on the screen after exiting >> from X. >>

Re: [arch-general] Shutdown issue - after updates yesterday

2012-06-15 Thread mike cloaked
On Fri, Jun 15, 2012 at 5:39 PM, mike cloaked wrote: >>> I can't find anything in the logs directly related to this but I do >>> have in /var/log/errors/log: >>> >>> Jun 15 10:58:22 localhost NetworkManager[1441]: >>> nm_supplicant_info_set_ca

Re: [arch-general] [aur-general]pipe log msg on conky window

2012-06-22 Thread mike cloaked
On Thu, Jun 21, 2012 at 8:53 PM, Arno Gaboury wrote: > Dear all, > > as I was configuring a conky window on my desktop, I decided to add some > precisions and tips for configuring the *.conkyrc* file in the Arch WIKI. > > Reading any /var/log file needs to be root, thus making difficult to run any

[arch-general] grub/grub2 final - some questions

2012-06-27 Thread mike cloaked
Subject: Re: [arch-dev-public] grub/grub2 final On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 8:51 PM, Ronald van Haren wrote: > I was about to post a similar message... > > Anyway, I was planning to drop support of grub1. There has been no > upstream for a long time and all newer features are patched in or > require

Re: [arch-general] grub/grub2 final - some questions

2012-06-27 Thread mike cloaked
On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 3:03 PM, Keshav P R wrote: > I assume you are talking about non-UEFI systems which are currently > booting via grub-legacy, ie current core/grub or aur/grub-gfx . For > such systems, once grub-bios (aka grub2-bios) is installed, the user > has to follow > https://wiki.arc

[arch-general] A question specifically about upgrading an existing arch system from grub legacy to grub without UEFI or GPT

2012-07-02 Thread mike cloaked
I have been following the discussions in various places including on this list about the forthcoming change from grub to become grub-legacy and the default bootloader becoming grub2. On all my arch systems I have grub with MBR partitioning, booting to BIOS initially - and none of my systems is mod

Re: [arch-general] A question specifically about upgrading an existing arch system from grub legacy to grub without UEFI or GPT

2012-07-02 Thread mike cloaked
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 5:26 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > I have been following the discussions in various places including on > this list about the forthcoming change from grub to become grub-legacy > and the default bootloader becoming grub2. > > On all my arch systems I hav

Re: [arch-general] A question specifically about upgrading an existing arch system from grub legacy to grub without UEFI or GPT

2012-07-02 Thread mike cloaked
On Mon, Jul 2, 2012 at 5:39 PM, gt wrote: > Why do you need to upgrade to grub2? Even if grub-legacy won't be in the > official repositories, it'll be in the AUR. Also, you don't need to > reinstall grub every now and then, so i don't see the need to upgrade. OK if the general policy will be tha

[arch-general] Leap seconds ntp and chrony?

2012-07-02 Thread mike cloaked
There has been a fair amount of disruption to systems over a widespread geographic area due to the mutex leap second bug from midnight Saturday, and from what I read this was triggered by ntpd calling specific routines from the kernel - does anyone know if the same bug has also hit systems using ch

[arch-general] Installing without using AIF?

2012-07-16 Thread mike cloaked
Given the significant changes to key packages in recent times as well as the main AIF developer leaving I thought I would start looking at how to do a clean install without reference to AIF. There are new isos now available which have dropped AIF in favour of the arch-install-scripts but as yet I

Re: [arch-general] Installing without using AIF?

2012-07-16 Thread mike cloaked
On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:02 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > This should be a start: > https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Arch_Install_Scripts Thanks - yes I had seen this link and it is really terse - I was hoping there was something available with a little more detail though... -- mike c

[arch-general] Quick question about post-MBR gap?

2012-07-18 Thread mike cloaked
I am planning a test install using the new arch-install-scripts via the latest netinstall images from releng (from today's date). I know that for a system where I blow away all previous disc partitions and partition from scratch I can create a 2MiB partition (using MBR and NOT GPT partitioning) be

Re: [arch-general] Quick question about post-MBR gap?

2012-07-18 Thread mike cloaked
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 7:40 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > I am planning a test install using the new arch-install-scripts via > the latest netinstall images from releng (from today's date). > > I know that for a system where I blow away all previous disc > partitions and partitio

Re: [arch-general] Quick question about post-MBR gap?

2012-07-18 Thread mike cloaked
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Matthew Monaco wrote: > On 07/18/2012 12:46 PM, mike cloaked wrote: >> On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 7:40 PM, mike cloaked >> wrote: >>> I am planning a test install using the new arch-install-scripts via the >>> latest netinstall imag

Re: [arch-general] Quick question about post-MBR gap?

2012-07-18 Thread mike cloaked
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:13 PM, Kirill Churin wrote: > What the fuck is wrong with you, guys? Why didn't you just read the manual? > http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#BIOS-installation > > Arch follows upstream, you know? > Thank you for your polite reply! I have read the manua

Re: [arch-general] Quick question about post-MBR gap?

2012-07-18 Thread mike cloaked
On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 10:51 PM, Taylor Hedberg wrote: > Just ignore the troll. There are a few people on this list who seem to > take offense at the fact that people ask questions about Arch Linux...on > a list for asking questions about Arch Linux. It's one thing if you had > made no effort to

Re: [arch-general] Quick question about post-MBR gap?

2012-07-19 Thread mike cloaked
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 5:33 AM, Martti Kühne wrote: > last time I installed arch on a virtual machine, I was unable to install > grub2. > one google search later I put the mbr gap of 2MiB back in place and everything > went smoothly. 2MiB isn't much by today's standards, and if the software says

Re: [arch-general] Updating AUR package with pacman

2012-07-19 Thread mike cloaked
On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 4:18 PM, Jelle van der Waa wrote: > On 19/07/12 17:13, Thorsten Jolitz wrote: >> >> Hi List, >> >> when I want to install a new version from an already installed AUR >> package - do I have to remove the old version first, or do I simply >> follow the same steps as if there

Re: [arch-general] Systemd +1

2012-07-26 Thread mike cloaked
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 5:58 PM, Bjoern Franke wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, den 25.07.2012, 20:42 +0100 schrieb Leonidas Spyropoulos: > >> Maybe it's just my idea but I think the system is somewhat faster on >> the booting now. >> >> Just my opinion but as I see initscripts are abandoned and Archlinux

[arch-general] Cups 1.6 printer discovery

2012-07-30 Thread mike cloaked
Now that cups 1.6 is in core - I have been struggling to get my laptop to "see" a shared printer attached by usb to another machine on the same network - previously if port 631 was open on all machines in the network then cups seemed to make the printer visible on all local machines. I have been r

Re: [arch-general] Cups 1.6 printer discovery

2012-07-30 Thread mike cloaked
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 8:31 PM, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto wrote: > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 4:23 PM, mike cloaked wrote: >> Now that cups 1.6 is in core - I have been struggling to get my laptop >> to "see" a shared printer attached by usb to another machine on the >&g

Re: [arch-general] Cups 1.6 printer discovery

2012-07-30 Thread mike cloaked
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 8:46 PM, Mantas Mikulėnas wrote: > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:23 PM, mike cloaked wrote: >> Now that cups 1.6 is in core - I have been struggling to get my laptop >> to "see" a shared printer attached by usb to another machine on the >> sa

Re: [arch-general] Cups 1.6 printer discovery

2012-07-30 Thread mike cloaked
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Mantas Mikulėnas wrote: > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:52 PM, mike cloaked wrote: >> In fact I already had "BrowseLocalProtocols dnssd" in cupsd.conf in my >> laptop (client) - and on checking the server machine in fact >> avahi-daem

Re: [arch-general] Cups 1.6 printer discovery

2012-07-30 Thread mike cloaked
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:48 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Mantas Mikulėnas wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:52 PM, mike cloaked >> wrote: >>> In fact I already had "BrowseLocalProtocols dnssd" in cupsd.conf in my >>

Re: [arch-general] Cups 1.6 printer discovery

2012-07-30 Thread mike cloaked
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:50 PM, mike cloaked wrote: >> OK I have avahi-daemon running on both client and server - and have >> just opened up port 5353 on both machines (mdns) >> >> avahi-browse --all now sees the printer and opening a browser on >> localhost:631 a

Re: [arch-general] Cups 1.6 printer discovery

2012-07-30 Thread mike cloaked
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:58 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:50 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > >>> OK I have avahi-daemon running on both client and server - and have >>> just opened up port 5353 on both machines (mdns) >>> >>> avahi-brows

Re: [arch-general] Cups 1.6 printer discovery

2012-07-30 Thread mike cloaked
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:34 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:58 PM, mike cloaked wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:50 PM, mike cloaked wrote: >> >>>> OK I have avahi-daemon running on both client and server - and have >>>> just ope

Re: [arch-general] Cups 1.6 printer discovery

2012-07-31 Thread mike cloaked
On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:40 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 10:34 PM, mike cloaked wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:58 PM, mike cloaked wrote: >>> On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 9:50 PM, mike cloaked >>> wrote: >>> >>>>> OK I

Re: [arch-general] Cups 1.6 printer discovery

2012-07-31 Thread mike cloaked
On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Mantas Mikulėnas wrote: > On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 12:32 PM, Kevin Chadwick > wrote: >> "Bonjour Support; Bonjour printer sharing and discovery is now also >> supported using Avahi." >> >> Also supported? > > "Also supported" means "you can now use Avahi instead

Re: [arch-general] Something wrong with firefox/thunderbird driving X cpu usage -> 100%

2012-08-10 Thread mike cloaked
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 08/10/2012 12:41 AM, gt wrote: > >> >> Why don't you guys try something like claws or sylpheed, if you are >> having problem with thunderbird. I have used claws a couple of times >> and I can say that it consumes minimal resources (for a

Re: [arch-general] Something wrong with firefox/thunderbird driving X cpu usage -> 100%

2012-08-10 Thread mike cloaked
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 5:38 PM, Squall Lionheart wrote: > I don't see an option related to GLODA in edit->prefs->advanced->general, > is it the same as "Enable Global Search and Indexer"? > > Thanks > Squall > Yes under exactly that option select to "not" Enable Global Search and Indexer - then

Re: [arch-general] Personal note

2012-08-15 Thread mike cloaked
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 8:43 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Karol Blazewicz > wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 7:27 PM, Tom Gundersen wrote: >>> Hi guys, >>> >>> As most devs have done already, I'm going to change my relationship >>> with arch-general. >> >> What is

Re: [arch-general] Personal note

2012-08-15 Thread mike cloaked
On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 9:44 PM, David Benfell wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 08/15/2012 12:51 PM, mike cloaked wrote: >> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 8:43 PM, Tom Gundersen >> wrote: >>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 9:01 PM, Karol Blazewic

Re: [arch-general] IRC channel

2012-08-16 Thread mike cloaked
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Jameson wrote: > On Aug 16, 2012 2:10 AM, "Thomas Rand" wrote: >> I use gmail yet ooh I bottom post! >> how >> click reply >> hold down ctrl+end >> this takes you to the bottom of the reply window tada! > > Anybody know where to find the ctrl or end keys on an An

Re: [arch-general] IRC channel

2012-08-16 Thread mike cloaked
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Thomas Rand wrote: > On 16 August 2012 13:48, mike cloaked wrote: >> On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:44 PM, Jameson wrote: >>> On Aug 16, 2012 2:10 AM, "Thomas Rand" wrote: >>>> I use gmail yet ooh I bottom post! >>&

Re: [arch-general] SystemD poll

2012-08-16 Thread mike cloaked
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 6:59 PM, phani wrote: > On Thu, 16 Aug 2012 23:10:38 +0530, Denis A. Altoé Falqueto > wrote: > >> Replace "gold" with "willing and skills to help", and you're right. > > what strikes me is that pretty much all who have the skills, do the work, > and make the decisions in (

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux and systemd

2012-08-17 Thread mike cloaked
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Myra Nelson wrote: > of lib and lib64 to /usr/lib, I'm basically ambivalent. I still don't like > not being able to put /usr on a separate partition, I know there's a > mkinitcpio hook to cover that, but I can see the logic in cleaning up the Thank you for a reas

Re: [arch-general] SystemD poll

2012-08-17 Thread mike cloaked
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Jérôme Bartand wrote: > Hi! > > Yesterday I read on Phoronix that Arch devs are planning to switch to > SystemD, but many users are unhappy with this move. You can see a lot of > controversy discussion on this list. I have created an online poll to > determine the

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux and systemd

2012-08-17 Thread mike cloaked
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Myra Nelson wrote: > There has been much ado on the arch-general mailing list about the move to > systemd. I participated in part of it, but like others finally tired of > "seeing a dead horse kicked" over and over and over. So much so that the > last dev who real

Re: [arch-general] SystemD poll

2012-08-17 Thread mike cloaked
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:07 AM, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Fri, 17 Aug 2012 10:20:47 +0100 > schrieb mike cloaked : > >> Isn't it interesting that the vote is currently 81% support for arch >> to switch to systemd (even with the misspelling in the poll), and only >

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux and systemd

2012-08-17 Thread mike cloaked
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 12:23 PM, te...@broletto.org wrote: >> most of which are systems using systemd. Given that so many machines >> are currently running systemd it can't be all that bad! This is of >> > How many machines are currently running Windows*? > Surely that is not particularly relev

Re: [arch-general] SystemD poll

2012-08-17 Thread mike cloaked
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 11:09 AM, mike cloaked wrote: > True but see my posting in another thread in this mailing list today > pointing to some rather more useful stats. > Actually better than a poll are the comments that appear in: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=145943 -- mike c

Re: [arch-general] Arch Linux and systemd

2012-08-17 Thread mike cloaked
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 10:14 AM, mike cloaked wrote: > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 10:22 PM, Myra Nelson wrote: >> of lib and lib64 to /usr/lib, I'm basically ambivalent. I still don't like >> not being able to put /usr on a separate partition, I know there's a >>

Re: [arch-general] GDM and/or PulseAudio mute my sound

2012-08-18 Thread mike cloaked
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 4:20 AM, Kyle wrote: > According to Rodrigo Rivas: > >> One last idea. Maybe the gnome-settings-daemon is playing dumb with your >> sound. I think you can disable the sound plugin of g-s-d using dconf >> (org.gnome.settings-daemon.plugins.sound.active). >> > > I tried > > d

Re: [arch-general] GDM and/or PulseAudio mute my sound

2012-08-18 Thread mike cloaked
On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 8:45 AM, mike cloaked wrote: >> while the volume was at the proper level. At this point, I am totally >> stumped. The computer I had that died used a SoundBlaster Live Value, and >> although the sound started out muted, restoring the alsa volumes a

Re: [arch-general] systemd-journald-syslog-ng

2012-08-31 Thread mike cloaked
On Thu, Aug 30, 2012 at 5:19 PM, Arno Gaboury wrote: > Dear list, > > I finally managed to boot safely with systemd. > I am still wondering if journald is correctly set up. > > Until now, syslog-ng is STILL unabled. Following the wiki, I changed the > line in syslog-ng.conf from: > unix-dgram("/va

Re: [arch-general] libsystemd to systemd

2012-08-31 Thread mike cloaked
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 6:41 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: >> > > People are grumbling about this compatibility layer, and I might >> > > change/remove it at some point. The reason I still have not ripped it >> > > out is that I like the fact that your system will "just work" as >> > > before if you a

[arch-general] networkmanager-0.9.6.0-1 - i686

2012-09-01 Thread mike cloaked
It would be really nice to see the i686 version of this package signed off and moved into [core] - I am hoping for a fix for a laptop that I believe will come with this version - hopefully one of the developers with signing powers and hardware to test it can sign it off soon. -- mike c

Re: [arch-general] networkmanager-0.9.6.0-1 - i686

2012-09-01 Thread mike cloaked
On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 10:22 AM, Ionut Biru wrote: > On 09/01/2012 11:40 AM, mike cloaked wrote: >> It would be really nice to see the i686 version of this package signed >> off and moved into [core] - I am hoping for a fix for a laptop that I >> believe will come with thi

Re: [arch-general] [Bulk] Re: libsystemd to systemd

2012-09-01 Thread mike cloaked
On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Kevin Chadwick wrote: >> On Aug 31, 2012 7:47 PM, "Kevin Chadwick" wrote: >> > >> > > > I will give one example. Lennart says come on who connects to sshd >> more >> > > > than once a month. I can't believe he's never seen a sshd log with >> > > > constant pass att

[arch-general] NetworkManager update - problematic for ipw2200

2012-09-10 Thread mike cloaked
I was away for a few days but this evening returned and updated a laptop which has ipw2200 wireless - and the updates included NetworkManager 0.9.6 - after rebooting the machine the wireless connection fails within seconds - despite ifconfig and ifconfig showing a normal connection - this is for a

[arch-general] Systemd and time synchronisation problems

2012-09-11 Thread mike cloaked
Recently I changed permanently to systemd - however I have noticed that the system clock is out by some minutes just after I have booted up and see for example: [mike@lapmike3 ~]$ chronyc tracking Reference ID: 178.32.55.58 (gateway.omega.org.uk) Stratum : 3 Ref time (UTC) : Tue Sep 1

Re: [arch-general] Systemd and time synchronisation problems

2012-09-11 Thread mike cloaked
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 11.09.2012 12:15, schrieb mike cloaked: >> Recently I changed permanently to systemd - however I have noticed >> that the system clock is out by some minutes just after I have booted >> up and see for example:

Re: [arch-general] Systemd and time synchronisation problems

2012-09-11 Thread mike cloaked
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Does chrony install a .list file to /usr/lib/systemd/ntp-units.d? > [mike@lapmike3 Documents]$ cat /usr/lib/systemd/ntp-units.d/chrony.list chrony.service So yes this is the single line content of the chrony.list file >> I would not mi

Re: [arch-general] Systemd and time synchronisation problems

2012-09-11 Thread mike cloaked
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Your /etc/adjtime probably contains a faulty adjustment value. Delete > it, hwclock --systohc, then reboot. > There is a problem running the hwclock command: [root@lapmike3 etc]# hwclock --systohc hwclock: Cannot access the Hardware Clock

Re: [arch-general] Systemd and time synchronisation problems

2012-09-11 Thread mike cloaked
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 5:16 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:59 AM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > >> Your /etc/adjtime probably contains a faulty adjustment value. Delete >> it, hwclock --systohc, then reboot. >> > There is a problem running the hwclock

Re: [arch-general] Systemd and time synchronisation problems

2012-09-11 Thread mike cloaked
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > Am 11.09.2012 18:17, schrieb mike cloaked: > I guess you need to stop chrony when playing with hwclock. Maybe it is > enough to just delete adjtime without that command. > > Forgot to tell you (but it's probably too l

Re: [arch-general] Systemd and time synchronisation problems

2012-09-11 Thread mike cloaked
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 5:52 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: > I guess you need to stop chrony when playing with hwclock. Maybe it is > enough to just delete adjtime without that command. > > Forgot to tell you (but it's probably too late now) to post the first > line of your /etc/adjtime, this would h

Re: [arch-general] Systemd and time synchronisation problems

2012-09-11 Thread mike cloaked
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: >> OK I will try with chrony stopped - the first line of adjtime is: >> >> 0.00 0 0.00 >> >> I saved the file as .bak before fiddling! > > Okay, that means your problem is NOT a broken adjtime. This basically > says that your hardware

Re: [arch-general] Systemd and time synchronisation problems

2012-09-11 Thread mike cloaked
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Jan Steffens wrote: > On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: >> 2) When chrony is not running, systemd-timedated runs periodically to >> adjust the hardware clock for drift (AFAIK, not sure that is the job >> that timedated does). > > No. When chro

Re: [arch-general] Systemd and time synchronisation problems

2012-09-11 Thread mike cloaked
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 8:06 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Jan Steffens wrote: >> On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Thomas Bächler wrote: >>> 2) When chrony is not running, systemd-timedated runs periodically to >>> adjust the hardware

Re: [arch-general] Systemd and time synchronisation problems

2012-09-12 Thread mike cloaked
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Stephen E. Baker wrote: > I think the usual response is, anyone can edit the wiki - please add what > you > think is needed. Point taken - I will try find some time to do that! -- mike c

Re: [arch-general] Systemd and time synchronisation problems

2012-09-12 Thread mike cloaked
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 2:59 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 1:02 PM, Stephen E. Baker > wrote: > >> I think the usual response is, anyone can edit the wiki - please add what >> you >> think is needed. > > Point taken - I will try find some time

Re: [arch-general] NetworkManager update - problematic for ipw2200

2012-09-12 Thread mike cloaked
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:32 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > I was away for a few days but this evening returned and updated a > laptop which has ipw2200 wireless - and the updates included > NetworkManager 0.9.6 - after rebooting the machine the wireless > connection fails within secon

[arch-general] Using install dual iso 2012-09-07 - graphics issue?

2012-09-15 Thread mike cloaked
I have made a bootable usbkey with the archlinux-2012.09.07-dual.iso file but having tried to boot it, both on an Inspiron 530s and also a Samsung Q35 netbook, there is a blue "graphics" screen but it does not stop and offer me the choice of i686 or x86_64 but carries straight on to boot to the nor

Re: [arch-general] Using install dual iso 2012-09-07 - graphics issue?

2012-09-15 Thread mike cloaked
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Daniel Wallace wrote: > mike cloaked wrote: > >>I have made a bootable usbkey with the archlinux-2012.09.07-dual.iso >>file but having tried to boot it, both on an Inspiron 530s and also a >>Samsung Q35 netbook, there is a blue "gra

Re: [arch-general] Using install dual iso 2012-09-07 - graphics issue?

2012-09-16 Thread mike cloaked
On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 10:04 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 9:04 PM, Daniel Wallace > wrote: >> mike cloaked wrote: >> >>>I have made a bootable usbkey with the archlinux-2012.09.07-dual.iso >>>file but having tried to boot it, both on an

Re: [arch-general] sleep + lid events + kde => new problem

2012-09-17 Thread mike cloaked
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 3:11 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > > Using fully updated testing repo - starting 'recently' - I notice that lid > close no longer sleeps my laptop. > > Kde power is configured to sleep on lid close. If i click the menu and > choose sleep manually - it sleeps fine - and sub

Re: [arch-general] sleep + lid events + kde => new problem

2012-09-21 Thread mike cloaked
On Tue, Sep 18, 2012 at 2:21 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > > > Seems other events have stopped being processed as well - e.g. > > unplugging a/c and going to battery - laptop beeps - but screen no > longer dims - > > Again - I can dim screen by hand by doing something like this: > > echo '11' > /

Re: [arch-general] NetworkManager update - problematic for ipw2200

2012-09-21 Thread mike cloaked
On Wed, Sep 12, 2012 at 6:05 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:32 PM, mike cloaked wrote: >> I was away for a few days but this evening returned and updated a >> laptop which has ipw2200 wireless - and the updates included >> NetworkManager 0.9.6 - after

Re: [arch-general] testing/systemd 191-1 failed to boot

2012-09-23 Thread mike cloaked
On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 9:39 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > Hi Heiko, > > On Sat, Sep 22, 2012 at 8:07 AM, Heiko Baums wrote: >> Why am I not surprised? > > Why should you be? I'm not. I don't think anyone finds it surprising > that software has bugs, or that actively developed software has the > occ

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list closed for 24 hours

2012-09-27 Thread mike cloaked
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 3:35 PM, Nicolas Sebrecht wrote: > The 27/09/12, Tobias Frilling wrote: > >> IMHO the cause of all these flaming is that arch-general is too, well, >> general. > > The problem is not that arch-general is the wrong place for the latter > threads. Users are correct to think

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list closed for 24 hours

2012-09-27 Thread mike cloaked
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 5:37 PM, Karol Blazewicz wrote: > > As it was mentioned a couple times on the list, the forums have > moderators. If you don't behave, you get banned, threads get closed > etc. OK - it seems to work - when I get frustrated with the mailling list I go to the forums instead

Re: [arch-general] Iinstallation program

2012-09-27 Thread mike cloaked
On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 7:37 PM, Martín Cigorraga wrote: > On Fri, Sep 21, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Bigby James wrote: > >> Please, please /please/ don't recommend spin-offs as "Arch Lite" or "Arch >> Made Easy" or anything like that. Neither Manjaro nor Chakra are closely >> related to Arch, and giving

Re: [arch-general] Mailing list closed for 24 hours

2012-09-28 Thread mike cloaked
On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 11:33 AM, Tom Gundersen wrote: > On Sep 28, 2012 12:01 PM, "Nicolas Sebrecht" wrote: >> >> The 28/09/12, Gaetan Bisson wrote: >> >> > We have recently seen on this very mailing list that for every person >> > posting considerate opinions, there are dozens who just pollute

Re: [arch-general] kernel 3.6 feedback

2012-10-03 Thread mike cloaked
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 12:33 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > > kernel 3.6-1 testing report: > > I am running 3.6 from testing on 3 machines. 1 laptop and 2 desktops. All > are fully updated from testing repo. > > 1 of the desktop didn't come up right - seemed to have trouble with root > filesys

[arch-general] pacman update dependency problem today for kdegames

2012-10-03 Thread mike cloaked
Today I tried to update with pacman -Syu I got this: :: Starting full system upgrade... resolving dependencies... warning: cannot resolve "kdegames-knavalbattle", a dependency of "kde-meta-kdegames" warning: cannot resolve "kdegames-ksnakeduel", a dependency of "kde-meta-kdegames" :: The following

Re: [arch-general] pacman update dependency problem today for kdegames

2012-10-03 Thread mike cloaked
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:40 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > Today I tried to update with pacman -Syu > > I got this: > :: Starting full system upgrade... > resolving dependencies... > warning: cannot resolve "kdegames-knavalbattle", a dependency of > "kde-meta

[arch-general] Protected symlinks in kernel 3.6

2012-10-04 Thread mike cloaked
With kernel 3.6 in testing, and with the new protected symlinks feature being on by default, I wondered if anyone has seen any problems running this kernel as a direct result of this new feature? https://lkml.org/lkml/2012/10/3/473 It would be nice to know of any problems so that anyone running t

[arch-general] KDE mail popup notification immediately after login starts - how to remove?

2012-10-15 Thread mike cloaked
In the past few days after a KDE update immediately after KDE login starts from the KDM login greet screen. I get a small mail notification popup window before the normal KDE login completes immediately after entering the login password in KDM. The popup says either "You have old mail" or "You ha

Re: [arch-general] "You have mail" message at login

2012-10-16 Thread mike cloaked
On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 3:33 PM, Sébastien Leblanc wrote: > On 16 October 2012 01:42, gt wrote: >> Whenever I log in to a TTY, I get this message. I read my system mails >> through mutt, so i don't need this. > > Pam is taking care of showing whether you have mail or not. In > /etc/pam.d/system-l

[arch-general] consolekit removal - a question

2012-10-31 Thread mike cloaked
For people who have converted to systemd it seems that consolekit is no longer needed. When removing it should one do "pacman -R consolekit" or "pacman -Rs consolekit" - I was unsure whether the dependencies should also be removed or not? Thanks -- mike c

Re: [arch-general] consolekit removal - a question

2012-10-31 Thread mike cloaked
On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 8:56 PM, Arno Gaboury wrote: > On 31/10/12||20:46, mike cloaked wrote: > > For people who have converted to systemd it seems that consolekit is no > > longer needed. > > > > When removing it should one do "pacman -R consolekit" or "

Re: [arch-general] xf86-video-ati -- trouble ahead

2012-11-11 Thread mike cloaked
On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Mauro Santos wrote: > On 11-11-2012 16:12, phanisvara wrote: > > On Sunday 11 Nov 2012 21:37:17 phanisvara wrote: > >> as per https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=56986, there's some > >> trouble with ver. 7.0.0 of this driver. it needs KMS mode now, but >

[arch-general] pacman optional package messages on update

2012-11-20 Thread mike cloaked
Recently there have been some (slightly) confusing output lines running pacman -Syu. This evening I see: New optional dependencies for logrotate cron: scheduled log rotation However: [root@lapmike3 ~]# pacman -Q cron error: package 'cron' was not found But of course: [root@lapmike3 ~]# pacm

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