Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Report ignored. What to do as next?

2023-11-01 Thread jordi.palet--- via anti-abuse-wg
We had a policy proposal to ensure that the abuse mailbox was valid and monitored, but this community didn’t liked it. In other regions it works and it proven to be a very valid tool. Should we restart that discussion? I’m happy to resubmit the proposal then. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet > El

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Report ignored. What to do as next?

2023-11-29 Thread jordi.palet--- via anti-abuse-wg
at's the problem then? > > > -- > Sergey > > > >> On Nov 1, 2023, at 05:10, jordi.palet--- via anti-abuse-wg >> wrote: >> >> We had a policy proposal to ensure that the abuse mailbox was valid and >> monitored, but this community didn’t liked it. In ot

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] What's happening in th AA-WG Session in Rome?

2023-11-29 Thread jordi.palet--- via anti-abuse-wg
Clash with AP WG, so not able to be there today. Clearly abuse mailbox being ignored should be a policy violation and the NCC must be able to enforce it. If the WG believes the same, hopefully (otherwise we are in the wild west in this region), I’m happy to work again on this. Happy to hear if

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Report ignored. What to do as next?

2023-11-29 Thread jordi.palet--- via anti-abuse-wg
@jordipalet > El 29 nov 2023, a las 10:01, Gert Doering escribió: > > Hi, > > On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 09:39:28AM +0100, jordi.palet--- via anti-abuse-wg > wrote: >> 2017-02 doesn???t enforce people really using the abuse-c, > > Neither does your proposal to require v

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Report ignored. What to do as next?

2023-11-29 Thread jordi.palet--- via anti-abuse-wg
similar way, and being non-responsive means you get some “members” rights restricted. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet > El 29 nov 2023, a las 10:51, Leo Vegoda escribió: > > Hi Jordi, > > On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 at 10:12, jordi.palet--- via anti-abuse-wg > wrote: > > [...

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Report ignored. What to do as next?

2023-11-30 Thread jordi.palet--- via anti-abuse-wg
> El 29 nov 2023, a las 16:09, Leo Vegoda escribió: > > Hi Jordi, > > > On Nov 29, 2023, at 11:29, jordi.palet--- via anti-abuse-wg > wrote: >> >> I agree that the carrot is better than the stick, but if the carrot doesn’t >> work, we need to us

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Report ignored. What to do as next?

2023-11-30 Thread jordi.palet--- via anti-abuse-wg
ore and keeps going better and better, which is not the case from >> RIPE unfortunately. >> >> Regards, >> Jordi >> >> @jordipalet >> >>> >>> > El 29 nov 2023, a las 16:09, Leo Vegoda >> > <mailto:l...@vegoda.org&g

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Report ignored. What to do as next?

2023-11-30 Thread jordi.palet--- via anti-abuse-wg
t;>> >> I don’t see it as a regulator, I see it as one of the functions of a >>> >> RIR. Not just provide numbers, but also ensure that they are being >>> >> used fairly and according community agreed policies. Otherwise we >>> >> could also say that o

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Report ignored. What to do as next?

2023-11-30 Thread jordi.palet--- via anti-abuse-wg
, and if they can’t, they must enforce the policy. Again, I call it a very noticeable result, vs this region where I have nothing to do. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet > El 30 nov 2023, a las 9:53, Leo Vegoda escribió: > > Hi Jordi, > > On Thu, 30 Nov 2023 at 09:36, jordi.palet---

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Report ignored. What to do as next?

2023-11-30 Thread jordi.palet--- via anti-abuse-wg
t > El 30 nov 2023, a las 10:07, jordi.palet--- via anti-abuse-wg > escribió: > > In APNIC, LACNIC or AFRINIC, just to set an example, leasing of addresses > (unless for “connected customers”) is not allowed. > > If you do so, and the staff realize it, or somebody reports i

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Abuse Report ignored. What to do as next?

2023-12-01 Thread jordi.palet--- via anti-abuse-wg
Well … exactly the same way it has been already implemented in 2 other RIRs, working and no issues. Regards, Jordi @jordipalet > El 1 dic 2023, a las 14:28, Laura Atkins escribió: > > > >> On 1 Dec 2023, at 13:22, U.Mutlu wrote: >> >> Laura Atkins wrote on 12/01/23 13:22: >> > None of th