On Tue, 19 Mar 2019, Richard Clayton wrote:
I see this as a start. This is proposing a radical change in our way of
handling IP hijacking from today. Perhaps after a few years where people
see that the Internet hasn't died and there is a vast reduction in BGP
hijacks, we can then go to handl
On Tue, 19 Mar 2019, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
+1.
-Hank
In message ,
Marco Schmidt wrote:
You can find the full proposal at:
https://www.ripe.net/participate/policies/proposals/2019-03
Anyway who knows the first thing about me will know that I'm
strongly in favor of the general thrust
On Tue, 19 Mar 2019, Marco Schmidt wrote:
More or less I agree with the proposal. But what happens after a LIR is
found to be violation of the policy? RIPE NCC puts out a statement "LIR X
is in violation of Policy "? So what? How does this policy assist
stopping the BGP hijack from tak
On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, Gert Doering wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 09:06:11AM +0200, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
On Tue, 19 Mar 2019, Marco Schmidt wrote:
More or less I agree with the proposal. But what happens after a LIR is
found to be violation of the policy? RIPE NCC puts out a statement
On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, Gert Doering wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 09:53:02AM +0200, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
So that's a fairly effective way to sanction abusive behaviour.
The amount of time that will transpire from the time of abuse and a LIR
closed and their resources withdrawn can
es a bit.
Of course there is RPKI, MANRS and so on, but i do believe something should
be in place at policy level.
Best Regards,
Carlos
On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, Gert Doering wrote:
Hi,
On Wed, Mar 20, 2019 at 09:06:11AM +0200, Hank Nussbach
On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via anti-abuse-wg wrote:
Anything that advances the current situation is better than what we have
now. Don't let any warts I raise be seen as a showstopper.
-Hank
Hi Hank,
El 20/3/19 9:15, "anti-abuse-wg en nombre de Hank Nussbacher&q
On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via anti-abuse-wg wrote:
Hi Brian,
I'm fine moving that thread to NCC Services and I know how complex that will be.
So, repeating my question to all the participants here:
Can we agree at least that we should not have text regarding that in the policy
On Wed, 20 Mar 2019, Ricardo Patara wrote:
If you are a victim (someone has abused your network), then just prove it
and the policy won't apply and the hivemind will even assist you in
cleaning your router.
Regards,
-Hank
On this line of one ISP trying to make damage to other.
One might ab
On 22/03/2019 13:33, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via anti-abuse-wg wrote:
Clearly it is a matter of wording and also introducing warnings in some cases.
I have sent a text about this before:
“Direct peers allowing the hijack thru their networks will be warned the first
time, but may be considered by
On 22/03/2019 14:17, Piotr Strzyzewski wrote:
On Fri, Mar 22, 2019 at 11:09:24AM +, Carlos Friaças via anti-abuse-wg
wrote:
Dear Carlos,
8. "So Legacy holders (resources with a legacy status) are for obvious
reasons, excluded for penalties and out of reach. Also according to the
policy th
On 23/03/2019 00:19, Sander Steffann wrote:
But, this is not how to handle the problem of BGP hijacking. Even if it had
the slightest possibility of making any difference at a technical level (which
it won't), the proposal would set the RIPE Community and the RIPE NCC down a
road which I beli
On 23/03/2019 13:31, Nick Hilliard wrote:
JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via anti-abuse-wg wrote on 22/03/2019 22:55:
The legal bindings of the NCC already have that for those that don’t
follow existing policies, don’t pay bills, etc. So, the proposal is
adding in the table a policy for confirming what i
On 24/03/2019 14:48, Sander Steffann wrote:
Hi Gert,
Now, I do share the wish to "do something!!" against BGP hijacking.
So, maybe a more workable way forward would be to change this into a BCP
("the RIPE anti-abuse community states with full backing from the RIPE
community that BGP hijacking,
On 02/04/2019 18:48, GEANTY Damien (RIC-CH) wrote:
To the moderators,
It could be that numerous people just don't want to get sucked up into
an endless discussion about the pros and cons of this proposal and just
want to weigh in with their feelings about whether they support the
proposal or
On 04/04/2019 21:36, Gert Doering wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 08:32:39PM +0200, Karl-Josef Ziegler wrote:
Also I would to remind all the community that usually what happens to
communities that cannot regulate themselves is that some outsider comes
and regulated them...
Yes, this is also
On 05/09/2019 16:23, Marco Schmidt wrote:
"A.3.1. Reporting
Only persons directly affected by a suspected hijack can report to the
RIPE NCC that another party has announced resources registered to or
used by the reporter without their consent. "
This thereby precludes any national CERT from r
In regards to:
A.3.2. Pool of Experts
there should be some sort of insurance policy available provided by RIPE
NCC just as Board members cannot be held personally responsible, so too
the pool of experts need to be insured so that the "hijacker" doesn't
drag them into court on trumped up charges
On 04/12/2019 21:42, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Congratulations, Ron Guilmette. You’ve been doing this for years and this is
your biggest success yet.
https://mybroadband.co.za/news/internet/330379-how-internet-resources-worth-r800-million-were-stolen-and-sold-on-the-black-market.html
tl;d
On 13/12/2019 11:10, Fi Shing wrote:
Again, great work Ron!
-Hank
https://krebsonsecurity.com/2019/12/the-great-50m-african-ip-address-heist/
- Original Message -
Subject: Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Massive prefix theft in AFRINIC -
attributed to an insider
From: "Mic
On 28/12/2019 21:09, Randy Bush wrote:
How these things slip through is when paperwork gets submitted that is
incorrect and falsified with fake signatures.
and the ncc has a job advert out to hire even more lawyers (no blame;
it's a mess). can ripe keep from becoming arin?
randy
It would be
On 13/12/2019 13:38, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
In message <9c7d5885-f4e5-5c00-9523-bcc3a3b6a...@efes.iucc.ac.il>, you wrote:
Again, great work Ron!
Thanks much Hank.
I wish that I could get some journo in Israel to cover this, and maybe
go and put some questions to the man who ended up with
On 17/04/2020 09:55, Serge Droz via anti-abuse-wg wrote:
Serge,
Your post brought a smile to my face.
When bank robber Willie Sutton was asked "why do you rob banks?" he
answered "because that is where the money is".
So too with the Internet. Criminals and miscreants (a term coined and
favor
On 17/04/2020 10:09, Tõnu Tammer via anti-abuse-wg wrote:
Dear friends,
Every member of the community, who is on the receiving end of abuse,
feels that something should be done!
I reiterate what I have said before: this is just one example of how
todays' approach in handling abuse or designing
On 17/04/2020 16:31, Brian Nisbet wrote:
Brian is correct. "...it is up to the membership of the NCC to decide
who they wish to see on that Board.".
Just like in any country (and as we have seen over the past number of
years), the citizens get a leadership they deserve not what they want.
Unf
On 23/02/2022 20:39, Gert Doering wrote:
This takes me back 50+ years to US Supreme Court Justice Stewart's
definition of obscenity:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_know_it_when_I_see_it
Regards,
Hank
Hi,
On Wed, Feb 23, 2022 at 07:20:48PM +0100, Tobias Knecht via anti-abuse-wg wrote:
I d
On 23/06/2022 10:24, Jeroen Massar via anti-abuse-wg wrote:
Use block lists like https://www.spamhaus.org/xbl/ to make your life a bit
easier; but, do not outright block, use them ala Spamassassin as one of many
inputs to rank if an IP is likely to be good or bad.
For Tor, there is https://ch
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On 17/01/2024 23:05, Tomás Oliveira Valente Leite de Castro via
anti-abuse-wg wrote:
I believe RIPE NCC's job is not to police the internet, but to provide
registration services. However RIPE should guarantee that the
registrant's data is correct and up to date. This includes a proper
abuse c
On Sun, 28 Feb 2016, Ruediger Volk wrote:
As someone with legacy space (and who takes issue with RIPE NCC about
certain policies) I have no problem with abuse-c. I defined it ages ago
on all inetnums because that is the right thing to do.
-Hank
Dear colleagues,
I object to passing the po
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