[anti-abuse-wg] 2019-04 New Policy Proposal (Validation of "abuse-mailbox")

2019-05-16 Thread Alex de Joode
ripe members to no avail. It is my belief ripe should stick to technical verification that a abuse email box exists and is able to receive mail. Ripe is not the internet sheriff :) Cheers, Alex ​-- IDGARA | Alex de Joode | +31651108221

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] 2019-04 New Policy Proposal (Validation of "abuse-mailbox")

2019-05-16 Thread Alex de Joode
​On Fri, 17-05-2019 1h 45min, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via anti-abuse-wg wrote: > Hi Nick, > > [..] > > Anyone failing in repetitive ocassions to comply with policies is subjected > to further NCC scrutiny, including account closure. This is a different > policy already in place. If we don't lik

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] 2019-04 New Policy Proposal (Validation of "abuse-mailbox")

2019-05-16 Thread Alex de Joode
rdam court will be liable for any and all damages the ripe member suffered. ​-- IDGARA | Alex de Joode | +31651108221 On Fri, 17-05-2019 4h 49min, Fi Shing wrote: > This "proportionality" test you speak of, has as much relevance to the regulating of internet resources, as "

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] 2019-04 New Policy Proposal (Validation of "abuse-mailbox")

2019-05-16 Thread Alex de Joode
iness model build on providing a cybercrime infrastructure. The proposed policy will not be able to accomplish this. ​-- IDGARA | Alex de Joode | +31651108221 On Fri, 17-05-2019 7h 47min, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote: > How was ARIN able to reclaim 750k IPs showing fraud including sh

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] 2019-04 New Policy Proposal (Validation of "abuse-mailbox")

2019-05-18 Thread Alex de Joode
hatever'} This would be more valuable for the whole global abuse handling process than the burdensome time waster that is now proposed. ​-- IDGARA | Alex de Joode | +31651108221 On Sat, 18-05-2019 13h 31min, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via anti-abuse-wg wrote: > Hi Alex, The intent of t

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] 2019-03 Review Phase (Resource Hijacking is a RIPE Policy Violation)

2019-09-05 Thread Alex de Joode
for this to function ? (What if the LIRs refuse to sign the new contract, due to this introduced risk) ​-- IDGARA | Alex de Joode | +31651108221 On Thu, 05-09-2019 21h 46min, Alex de Joode wrote: > ​Dropping it might be the best thing: > The document does not clearly state what

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] An arrest in Russia

2019-12-28 Thread Alex de Joode
is also co-owner of the Czech company. Looks like it was a two prong approach, sell/give the ip-space to a Czech company and use that vehicle to sell the ip-space for a profit. Money then is outside Putins hands, also no problems with 'sanctions' etc. But then again what do I know.​-

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] @EXT: RE: working in new version of 2019-04 (Validation of "abuse-mailbox")

2020-01-16 Thread Alex de Joode
on" is the direction RIPE should pursue. That does not mean they are in favour of a "un-safe, spam infested, crime ridden internet", they just feel this issue should be address via leveraging RIPE resouces. ​-- IDGARA | Alex de Joode | a...@idgara.nl | +31651108221 | Skype:adej

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] @EXT: RE: working in new version of 2019-04 (Validation of "abuse-mailbox")

2020-01-16 Thread Alex de Joode
, and therefore do not have knowledge you are not liable. Also note there is no monitoring obligation, but if you do monitor you can gain knowledge and become liable for -everything-. So the current legal environment (in the EU) isn't very 'pro' abuse handling. ​-- IDGARA | Al

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Reporting abuse to OVH -- don't bother

2020-02-12 Thread Alex de Joode
the future include all relevant data in you abuse notice. (src+dst ip are relevant!) Thx.​-- IDGARA | Alex de Joode | a...@idgara.nl | +31651108221 | Skype:adejoode On Wed, 12-02-2020 13h 16min, Alessandro Vesely wrote:> > Dear Abuse Team > > The following abusive behavior from

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Reporting abuse to OVH -- don't bother

2020-02-12 Thread Alex de Joode
​IPVolume/Incrediserv, are the new incantation of 'Ecatel'. 'Good luck' (try to peer with them and throttle the bw/ to 28k8 modem speed, lessens the impact somewhat).​-- IDGARA | Alex de Joode | a...@idgara.nl | +31651108221 | Skype:adejoode On Wed, 12-02-2020 18h 50min,

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Spamming LIR accounts

2020-05-12 Thread Alex de Joode
), so GDPR applicability would be remote, if at all. Alex (LL.M)​-- IDGARA | Alex de Joode | a...@idgara.nl | +31651108221 | Skype:adejoode On Tue, 12-05-2020 21h 12min, Sabri Berisha wrote: > - On May 12, 2020, at 4:51 AM, Töma Gavrichenkov wrote: > > Peace, > Peace, >

[anti-abuse-wg] [Fwd: Re: Fwd: Re: botnet controllers]

2020-07-08 Thread Alex de Joode
hem or not." fundamentally mislabels their position in the abuse handling ecosystem. (it is a bit like arguing we have a working abuse@ mail address, but do not handle abuse at all) ​-- IDGARA | Alex de Joode | a...@idgara.nl | +31651108221 | Skype:adejoode On Wed, 08-07-2020 15h 08min, JORDI PAL

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal 2019-04

2020-09-08 Thread Alex de Joode
posal was flawed, no clear identifiable upside (except for a feel good factor) and a lot extra work for no real gain. If you want to fight the prevalence of internet abuse, ripe policy might not be your best avenue. Cheers, Alex ​-- IDGARA | Alex de Joode | a...@idgara.nl | +31651108221 | Skype:adej

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Report & Co-Chair's Decision on Proposal 2019-04

2020-09-08 Thread Alex de Joode
an argue a webform is abuse@ 2.0 :)​ So I do not share you view that a webform is a second rate instrument for accepting abuse notifications. As for ECD/DSA that will most likely be subject to lobby forces beyond our imagination, so anything is possible there ... ​-- IDGARA | Alex de

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] [policy-announce] Appeal against the Anti-Abuse WG Co-chairs decisions on proposal 2019-04 (Validation of “abuse-mailbox”)

2020-10-05 Thread Alex de Joode
tracting your appeal. ​-- IDGARA | Alex de Joode | a...@idgara.nl | +31651108221 On Mon, 05-10-2020 10h 23min, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: > Hi all, > > This appeal (attached in PDF) follows the process outlined by ripe-710 (RIPE > PDP). >

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Appeal against the Anti-Abuse WG Co-chairs decisions on proposal 2019-04 (Validation of “abuse-mailbox”)

2020-10-26 Thread Alex de Joode
stead of looking back, regroup and look forward? Cheers, Alex​-- IDGARA | Alex de Joode | a...@idgara.nl | +31651108221 On Mon, 26-10-2020 14h 43min, Petrit Hasani wrote: > Hi Jordi, > > The appeal was published on the RIPE NCC web page on the 13th of October. > > The Policy

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Appeal against the Anti-Abuse WG Co-chairs decisions on proposal 2019-04 (Validation of “abuse-mailbox”)

2020-11-12 Thread Alex de Joode
​Good idea! Let's also use a generic name 'Spammer' for contributors to this list. ​-- IDGARA | Alex de Joode | a...@idgara.nl | +31651108221 On Thu, 12-11-2020 13h 52min, PP wrote: > Is it possible to move a motion to rename this working group from Anti > Abuse WG

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Question about spam to abuse inbox

2021-02-25 Thread Alex de Joode
i-abuse effect in practise and complaints if their proposals are rejected, however in the end it's the companies that process the abuse that need to deal with all this. And if you ensure #1-7 are not in your complaint you have contributed more than sending emails as the armchair specialist. ​--

[anti-abuse-wg] Fwd: RIPE NCC Anti-Abuse Training: Next Steps & WG Input!

2022-02-10 Thread Alex de Joode
There are many things to consider (some semi random topics to consider). * what do you consider abuse? * only technical abuse (portscanes, spam, brute force attacks etc) * or also 'content abuses' (doxxing, hate speech, csam etc) * what about harmful content, will that be considered abuse *

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Unanimity

2022-06-20 Thread Alex de Joode
E NCC <> EU, despite the fact the RIPE NCC must abide by the laws of ONE of EU's member countries and therfore also ALL EU laws. ​-- IDGARA | Alex de Joode | a...@idgara.nl | +31651108221 Op ma, 20-06-2022 12u 48min, Carlos Friaças via anti-abuse-wg schreef: > Hi, > > The RIPE N

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Bulletproof servers causing mischief on the internet

2024-01-20 Thread Alex de Joode
sue however with the Digital Services Act (DSA) becomming active soon it will become a DSA issue. Please investigate how you can use the DSA to your advantage in fighting abuse (within the EU). Cheers, Alex​-- IDGARA | Alex de Joode | a...@idgara.nl | +31651108221 On Fri, 19-01-2024 14h 07min, OSI

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Seeking Input on the Future of the Anti-Abuse Working Group

2024-03-25 Thread Alex de Joode
proper venue to discuss this when the need arrises. As for the option below I miss "keep as is" :), also what issue(s) are now not covered and would be need a home @ a expanded 'security group' ? ​-- IDGARA | Alex de Joode | a...@idgara.nl | +31651108221 On Thu, 21-03-20

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] LEA Transparency Report 2023

2024-04-10 Thread Alex de Joode
ut their clients than RIPE). https://commission.europa.eu/law/cross-border-cases/judicial-cooperation/types-judicial-cooperation/e-evidence-cross-border-access-electronic-evidence_en​-- IDGARA | Alex de Joode | a...@idgara.nl | +31651108221 On Wed, 10-04-2024 19h 28min, Serge Droz via anti-abuse-wg wrote: