2017-02 doesn’t enforce people really using the abuse-c, neither it constitutes
a policy violation to have fake data or non-responsible mailboxes.
You can check how my proposal reached consensus in APNIC and LACNIC and
radically changed the situation in both regions, so it is very successful.
R
Clash with AP WG, so not able to be there today.
Clearly abuse mailbox being ignored should be a policy violation and the NCC
must be able to enforce it.
If the WG believes the same, hopefully (otherwise we are in the wild west in
this region), I’m happy to work again on this. Happy to hear if
Hi,
On Wed, Nov 29, 2023 at 09:39:28AM +0100, jordi.palet--- via anti-abuse-wg
wrote:
> 2017-02 doesn???t enforce people really using the abuse-c,
Neither does your proposal to require verification... all it does is
require "if a mail from the NCC comes in, click on the confirmation
button".
Well, it worked in other 2 regions, and one more AFRINIC also accepted it, just
waiting for the (hopefully) re-constituted board ratification.
Is not magic, is ensuring that the NCC has the tools, dictated by a policy, to
act against those not fulfilling their obligations.
Regards,
Jordi
@jord
Hi Jordi,
On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 at 10:12, jordi.palet--- via anti-abuse-wg
wrote:
[...]
> Is not magic, is ensuring that the NCC has the tools, dictated by a policy,
> to act against those not fulfilling their obligations.
Can you expand on this? What would you have the RIPE NCC do and when?
T
I agree that the carrot is better than the stick, but if the carrot doesn’t
work, we need to use the stick.
My original proposal was basically enforcing the NCC to reclaim the resources
when there is a persistent violation of resolving abuse cases. This can be
progressive, such as not allowing
This would be a welcome move. A graded and transparent set of enforcement
mechanisms is a good thing to have.
—srs
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Jordi
Can you please provide links to the policies that were implemented elsewhere.
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Hi Jordi,
On Nov 29, 2023, at 11:29, jordi.palet--- via anti-abuse-wg
wrote:
>
> I agree that the carrot is better than the stick, but if the carrot doesn’t
> work, we need to use the stick.
>
> My original proposal was basically enforcing the NCC to reclaim the resources
> when there is a
