We had a policy proposal to ensure that the abuse mailbox was valid and
monitored, but this community didn’t liked it. In other regions it works and it
proven to be a very valid tool.
Should we restart that discussion? I’m happy to resubmit the proposal then.
Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
> El
Hi,
On Wed, Nov 01, 2023 at 10:10:45AM +0100, jordi.palet--- via anti-abuse-wg
wrote:
> We had a policy proposal to ensure that the abuse mailbox was valid and
> monitored, but this community didn???t liked it. In other regions it works
> and it proven to be a very valid tool.
You failed to de
I think this community let's the perfect be the enemy of the possible.
Just because there are traffic rules doesn't mean people don't violate
them. But they violate them much less.
See, what I fear is, that at some stage states will start to regulate,
because the industry fails to do so. And
Hi,
On Wed, Nov 01, 2023 at 10:50:20AM +0100, Serge Droz via anti-abuse-wg wrote:
> We do this in many other places, it's called voluntary norms for responsible
> behaviour, and is seen as a great tool to improve things. Happy to explain
> more if there is an interest.
It's not like these norms d
It appears that � ngel Gonzalez Berdasco via anti-abuse-wg
said:
>> Just block their network 80.94.95.0/24 and forget about it.
>organisation: ORG-BA1515-RIPE
>org-name: BtHoster LTD
>country:GB
>org-type: OTHER
>address:26, New Kent Road, London, SE1 6TJ, UNITED KI
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We have had 2017-02, which is basically the same as yours 2019-04, except the
validation will be done 2x more often.
But the abuse-c validation does work. What's the problem then?
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> On Nov 1, 2023, at 05:10, jordi.palet--- via anti-abuse-wg
> wrote:
>
> We had a policy proposal
> It's not like these norms do not exist today - abuse contacts have to
> be provided already today. Responsible ISPs read these mailboxes and
> act upon them.
>
> Forcing everybody through a "you must click here to validate your
> abuse contact, otherwise bad things will happen to your resources
+1
The proposal put a massive burden on both us as members and the NCC with zero
benefit to anyone.
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On Wed, Nov 01, 2023 at 01:55:42PM +0100, John Levine wrote:
> It appears that ? ngel Gonzalez Berdasco via anti-abuse-wg
> said:
> >> Just block their network 80.94.95.0/24 and forget about it.
>
> >organisation: ORG-BA1515-RIPE
> >org-name: BtHoster LTD
> >country:GB
> >org-typ
Thank you for your interesting analysis.
Is then RIPE not a "partner in crime" for such criminal companies?
B/c it seems RIPE does not take any action against such evidently
criminal members abusing the network and the other members and users.
RIPE just says this ( https://www.ripe.net/support/ab
Hi,
On Wed, Nov 01, 2023 at 06:06:24PM +, Natale Maria Bianchi wrote:
> RIPE NCC apparently noted a high number of ASNs being abandoned
> [https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/address-policy-wg/2023-June/013757.html]
> but does not seem to note the relation with abuse that should explain a
Hi,
On Wed, Nov 01, 2023 at 07:44:45PM +0100, U.Mutlu wrote:
> Thank you for your interesting analysis.
>
> Is then RIPE not a "partner in crime" for such criminal companies?
"RIPE" is the community, all of us, including you.
So yes. But not the way you think.
Gert Doering
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Hi,
On Wed, 1 Nov 2023 at 12:51, Gert Doering wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 01, 2023 at 06:06:24PM +, Natale Maria Bianchi wrote:
> > RIPE NCC apparently noted a high number of ASNs being abandoned
> > [https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/address-policy-wg/2023-June/013757.html]
> > but does not s
Hi,
On Wed, Nov 01, 2023 at 01:45:03PM -0700, Leo Vegoda wrote:
> The RIPE NCC periodically asks the community about the priority for
> cleaning up unused ASNs, e.g.
>
> - https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/active-wg/db/minutes/ripe-52
> (item G), and
> - https://ripe82.ripe.net/presentatio
On Wed, 1 Nov 2023 at 14:26, Gert Doering wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 01, 2023 at 01:45:03PM -0700, Leo Vegoda wrote:
> > The RIPE NCC periodically asks the community about the priority for
> > cleaning up unused ASNs, e.g.
> >
> > - https://www.ripe.net/participate/ripe/wg/active-wg/db/minutes/ripe-52
>
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