Re: [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE NCC Anti-Abuse Training: Next Steps & WG Input!

2022-02-17 Thread Michele Neylon - Blacknight via anti-abuse-wg
I disagree Some types of network activity are not going to be welcome anywhere. Some kinds of use of networks and platforms are not welcome by most people. Please show me ANY COUNTRY where CSAM is legal. And “legality” is NOT the bar. Never has been. If we don’t try to deal with this then gove

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE NCC Anti-Abuse Training: Next Steps & WG Input!

2022-02-17 Thread JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via anti-abuse-wg
I just put a couple of examples. If we define abuse in a fix way, future ways to abuse will remain excluded. It is a matter of how we word it. We just need to explain this very well in trainings, not define “abuse”. I don’t recall specific countries, but in several African countries, when

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] RIPE NCC Anti-Abuse Training: Next Steps & WG Input!

2022-02-17 Thread Ángel González Berdasco
> And now that you mention it, are you sure that CSAM is illegal in 100% of the > countries? Of course it's not. Or, CSAM itself might be illegal but the definition of 'CSAM', 'child' or 'abuse' varies, so the end result is still that X is illegal in country A but not in country B. See the var