Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Unanimity

2022-06-21 Thread Carlos Friaças via anti-abuse-wg
Hi, "is this verified some time after the resources are allocated?" This is something i would like to know. My point was that unanimity is extremely difficult, and the universe for that unanimity with RIPE/RIPE NCC members is extremely huge. Carlos On Mon, 20 Jun 2022, Ronald F. Gui

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Unanimity

2022-06-20 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
In message , =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Carlos_Fria=E7as?= wrote: >The RIPE NCC Service Region spans over 70+ economies. > >In fact it spans over the whole planet when someone from outside the >service region details some plans to use IP addresses mostly within the >service region -- is this verified som

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Unanimity

2022-06-20 Thread Alex de Joode
So perhaps the first hurdle to change anything is understanding that RIPE/RIPE NCC <> EU, despite the fact the RIPE NCC must abide by the laws of ONE of EU's member countries. I fixed that for you: So perhaps the first hurdle to change anything is understanding that RIPE/RIPE NCC <> EU, despite

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Unanimity

2022-06-20 Thread Carlos Friaças via anti-abuse-wg
Hi, The RIPE NCC Service Region spans over 70+ economies. In fact it spans over the whole planet when someone from outside the service region details some plans to use IP addresses mostly within the service region -- is this verified some time after the resources are allocated? So perhaps

Re: [anti-abuse-wg] Unanimity

2022-06-20 Thread Gert Doering
Hi, On Sun, Jun 19, 2022 at 11:20:51PM -0700, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote: > Just a brief point. I previously noted here that RIPE's rules requiring > unanimity or near unanimity in order to declare "consensus" with respect > to any given proposal has recently been recognized, by some EU politician

[anti-abuse-wg] Unanimity

2022-06-19 Thread Ronald F. Guilmette
Just a brief point. I previously noted here that RIPE's rules requiring unanimity or near unanimity in order to declare "consensus" with respect to any given proposal has recently been recognized, by some EU politicians at least, as being a material impediment to forward movement on various issues