Re: [Anima] Errata 6642: Re: Registrar to MASA connections: SNI required

2024-02-20 Thread Michael Richardson
Esko Dijk wrote: > Small addendum: Even if RFC 6066 would allow IP literals in a SNI > (which it doesn't), then it still could not be used by a Pledge. Reason > is that a Pledge would discover only the IP literal of a Proxy and not > the one of the Registrar. So the Registrar woul

Re: [Anima] Errata 6642: Re: Registrar to MASA connections: SNI required

2024-02-20 Thread Michael Richardson
I have opened to pull requests in github against the text that was there. The goal is not to merge this, it's an RFC already, but rather to permit github to be used for wordsmithing efforts. https://www.rfc-editor.org/errata/eid6648 https://github.com/anima-wg/anima-bootstrap/pull/151/files Pledg

Re: [Anima] Errata 6642: Re: Registrar to MASA connections: SNI required

2024-02-20 Thread Esko Dijk
dson ; rwil...@cisco.com; anima@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Anima] Errata 6642: Re: Registrar to MASA connections: SNI required Trying to find better rules for the process without success, so i think that it's up to Rob to determine whethrer he wants additional input from the WG or simply ac

Re: [Anima] Errata 6642: Re: Registrar to MASA connections: SNI required

2024-02-15 Thread Toerless Eckert
Michael Richardson > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2024 19:54 > To: Toerless Eckert > Cc: rwil...@cisco.com; anima@ietf.org > Subject: Re: [Anima] Errata 6642: Re: Registrar to MASA connections: SNI > required > > > Toerless Eckert wrote: > >> I'm

Re: [Anima] Errata 6642: Re: Registrar to MASA connections: SNI required

2024-02-15 Thread Esko Dijk
ckert Cc: rwil...@cisco.com; anima@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Anima] Errata 6642: Re: Registrar to MASA connections: SNI required Toerless Eckert wrote: >> I'm fine with this. But, since it's hold for document update, we >> don't have to wordsmith it now, as long as

Re: [Anima] Errata 6642: Re: Registrar to MASA connections: SNI required

2024-02-14 Thread Michael Richardson
Toerless Eckert wrote: >> I'm fine with this. But, since it's hold for document update, we >> don't have to wordsmith it now, as long as we get across the right >> idea in the patch. > Well, my understanding is that Rob simply wants a replacement text for > the Errata that w

Re: [Anima] Errata 6642: Re: Registrar to MASA connections: SNI required

2024-02-14 Thread Toerless Eckert
On Wed, Feb 14, 2024 at 01:01:56PM -0500, Michael Richardson wrote: > tte> Just to double check: in this thread we're only talking registrar to > tte> MASA (no pledges). > > The text I quote from you above, says, "pledge" Siure, i mean for this thread with subject "Errata 6642" lets only

Re: [Anima] Errata 6642: Re: Registrar to MASA connections: SNI required

2024-02-14 Thread Michael Richardson
Toerless Eckert wrote: >> agile. But SNI is one such >> example, where the pledge does need to >> signal the right info (SNI) >> to enable "cheaper" cloud registrars, aka: >> those not owning a >> separate IPv4 address. See e.g.: AWS cost for IPv4 > address. On Mo

Re: [Anima] Errata 6642: Re: Registrar to MASA connections: SNI required

2024-02-13 Thread Esko Dijk
-Original Message- From: Anima On Behalf Of Toerless Eckert Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2024 03:05 To: Michael Richardson Cc: rwil...@cisco.com; anima@ietf.org Subject: Re: [Anima] Errata 6642: Re: Registrar to MASA connections: SNI required On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 09:01:50AM -0500, M

Re: [Anima] Errata 6642: Re: Registrar to MASA connections: SNI required

2024-02-12 Thread Toerless Eckert
On Mon, Feb 12, 2024 at 09:01:50AM -0500, Michael Richardson wrote: > > Toerless Eckert wrote: > > agile. But SNI is one such example, where the pledge does need to > > signal the right info (SNI) to enable "cheaper" cloud registrars, aka: > > those not owning a separate IPv4 address.

Re: [Anima] Errata 6642: Re: Registrar to MASA connections: SNI required

2024-02-12 Thread Michael Richardson
Toerless Eckert wrote: > agile. But SNI is one such example, where the pledge does need to > signal the right info (SNI) to enable "cheaper" cloud registrars, aka: > those not owning a separate IPv4 address. See e.g.: AWS cost for IPv4 > address. Right, but it's self-righting. A

Re: [Anima] Errata 6642: Re: Registrar to MASA connections: SNI required

2024-02-06 Thread Toerless Eckert
Hah, forgot to discuss this topic today. Well, it's not running away. I am really only interested to be diligent with pledge requirements because those will have the biggest variety of potentially crappy software stacks. Registars/MASA ci expect to be much more software agile. But SNI is one suc

Re: [Anima] Errata 6642: Re: Registrar to MASA connections: SNI required

2024-02-02 Thread Michael Richardson
Toerless Eckert wrote: > Lets maybe finalize next tuesday during our meeting. > In general i think that whenever a TLS initiator did learn the TLS > responder through a URL with a domain name, then it needs to insert the > domain name as the SNI "server_name". > If thats not

Re: [Anima] Errata 6642: Re: Registrar to MASA connections: SNI required

2024-02-01 Thread Toerless Eckert
Lets maybe finalize next tuesday during our meeting. In general i think that whenever a TLS initiator did learn the TLS responder through a URL with a domain name, then it needs to insert the domain name as the SNI "server_name". If thats not an unwritten rule, then i'd like to understand why n

Re: [Anima] Errata 6642: Re: Registrar to MASA connections: SNI required

2024-01-31 Thread Michael Richardson
Toerless Eckert wrote: > I think it should say: > Use of TLS 1.3 (or newer) is encouraged. TLS 1.2 or newer is REQUIRED. > TLS 1.3 (or newer) SHOULD be available. Registrars MUST and MASA > SHOULD support the "server_name" extension as specified in > [RFC6066]. This is

Re: [Anima] Errata 6642: Re: Registrar to MASA connections: SNI required

2024-01-31 Thread Rob Wilton (rwilton)
If you and Michael can get agreement on what the text should say then I can always update the errata before I process it. Thanks for your help, it would be nice to give Mahesh a clean slate when it comes in as a new AD. It is helpful for RFC readers as well … Regards, Rob From: Toerless Ecke