Re: [android-developers] Re: App Inventor to Market

2010-07-17 Thread Jonas Petersson
Kostya, On 07/17/2010 11:36 AM, Kostya Vasilyev wrote: Still think it would work well for games / social apps, but for productivity apps it can actually be the opposite of what's intended. Consider two productivity apps, one of which helps get the same work done in half the time. Which one of t

Re: [android-developers] Re: App Inventor to Market

2010-07-17 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
Jonas, Still think it would work well for games / social apps, but for productivity apps it can actually be the opposite of what's intended. Consider two productivity apps, one of which helps get the same work done in half the time. Which one of them deserves a ratings boost? -- Kostya 17.

Re: [android-developers] Re: App Inventor to Market

2010-07-17 Thread Jonas Petersson
On 07/17/2010 10:48 AM, Kostya Vasilyev wrote: <> Right, but how do you come up with alternative applications, given the variety of apps?[...] Yeah, it's hardly trivial, but hey, this is Google - if anyone can find relations in statistics, it's them... Also, for Google (Ad-based income) tim

Re: [android-developers] Re: App Inventor to Market

2010-07-17 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
God Dag Jonas, <> Right, but how do you come up with alternative applications, given the variety of apps? There are categories defined for Android Market apps, but they are quite broad. It would be possible to define more categories, but I sincerely hope there will be apps that don't fit any

Re: [android-developers] Re: App Inventor to Market

2010-07-17 Thread Jonas Petersson
Privet Kostya, On 07/17/2010 08:09 AM, Kostya Vasilyev wrote: Time spent and number of launches are poor metrics for app quality. Maybe it makes some sense for games. Well, "quality" is not at all what I was after, "popularity" more so. There certainly are apps that automatically start a serv

Re: [android-developers] Re: App Inventor to Market

2010-07-16 Thread Kostya Vasilyev
Johnas, Time spent and number of launches are poor metrics for app quality. Maybe it makes some sense for games. But consider a car navigation app, or an Office document viewer - their use time/count is dependent on factors that have nothing to do with how much users like them. I have a data bac

Re: [android-developers] Re: App Inventor to Market

2010-07-16 Thread Jonas Petersson
On 07/16/2010 05:35 PM, String wrote: On 16 July, 16:14, "Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru)" wrote: (Pardon the continued hijack) Likewise. ;^) +1 From my analysis, the key metric in market position is acceleration, not total downloads, comments or anything else. I respectfully disagree... i

Re: [android-developers] Re: App Inventor to Market

2010-07-16 Thread Mark Carter
Here's an idea for ordering: http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=6995 On 16 July 2010 17:35, String wrote: > On 16 July, 16:14, "Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru)" > wrote: > > > (Pardon the continued hijack) > > Likewise. ;^) > > > From my analysis, the key metric in market position

Re: [android-developers] Re: App Inventor to Market

2010-07-16 Thread Mark Carter
@John very interesting I have a few apps with several tens of thousands of downloads but now unpublished. But later I will republish them. That would give a lot of acceleration (depending how they calculate it)... Will report back when I republish! On 16 July 2010 17:14, Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API

Re: [android-developers] Re: App Inventor to Market

2010-07-16 Thread Mark Carter
Not in my case. All these visible metrics are in my app's favour (compared to apps immediately above): Rating Downloads Number of ratings Number of comments Number of comments recently The only things I can think of is the feedback the user gives when uninstalling or the Active Installs %... On

Re: [android-developers] Re: App Inventor to Market

2010-07-16 Thread Shane Isbell
There could be all sorts of reasons for this. For example, google may be increasing the visibility on the app based on user comment activity and detail views, so even a lot of 'This sucks' comments helps it out. Do these crapps with better visibility have a lot more comments? On Fri, Jul 16, 2010

Re: [android-developers] Re: App Inventor to Market

2010-07-15 Thread Wayne Wenthin
I think another thing that is missing is the ability to see the ratings of users that rated it but didn't comment. But then we have hijacked this thread so I'm gonna be quiet now. On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Jonas Petersson wrote: > On 07/16/2010 01:31 AM, Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) wr

Re: [android-developers] Re: App Inventor to Market

2010-07-15 Thread Jonas Petersson
On 07/16/2010 01:31 AM, Maps.Huge.Info (Maps API Guru) wrote: One thing that mitigates the occasional unhappy and misinformed user is time. Once your app has been on the market for a while, those comments won't affect your overall rating nor your position in the popularity rankings. All you have

Re: [android-developers] Re: App Inventor to Market

2010-07-15 Thread Jonas Petersson
On 07/16/2010 12:25 AM, Wayne Wenthin wrote: This is not entirely correct. I have an app rated at 3.5 + stars and there are tons of crapware above me because I have less downloads. (and probably because I'm not ripping off disney either but that was in another thread) I would tend to agree on

Re: [android-developers] Re: App Inventor to Market

2010-07-15 Thread Wayne Wenthin
This is not entirely correct. I have an app rated at 3.5 + stars and there are tons of crapware above me because I have less downloads. (and probably because I'm not ripping off disney either but that was in another thread) On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 2:53 PM, Greg Donald wrote: > On Thu, Jul 15

Re: [android-developers] Re: App Inventor to Market

2010-07-15 Thread Greg Donald
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 3:39 PM, TreKing wrote: > Your definition of "filter" confuses me. I apologize for the confusion. I meant it in the sense of "sorting" more than filtering. Low quality Android apps appear near the bottom of the lists while higher quality apps appear closer to the top. T

Re: [android-developers] Re: App Inventor to Market

2010-07-15 Thread TreKing
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Greg Donald wrote: > There is already a filter in place. Bad apps get low star ratings. Your definition of "filter" confuses me. - TreKing

Re: [android-developers] Re: App Inventor to Market

2010-07-15 Thread Dan Sherman
Unfortunately, thats more of a sort, and less of a filter... Now, if we could only say "Only items 4 stars and above", thats a different story.. On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 3:52 PM, Greg Donald wrote: > On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 2:31 PM, mah wrote: > > at least, if they can provide a > > way to filt

Re: [android-developers] Re: App Inventor to Market

2010-07-15 Thread Greg Donald
On Thu, Jul 15, 2010 at 2:31 PM, mah wrote: > at least, if they can provide a > way to filter out the crapps better. There is already a filter in place. Bad apps get low star ratings. -- Greg Donald destiney.com | gregdonald.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the