Re: [android-developers] Re: Piracy Breakdown by Country

I've got a 92% piracy rate on one of my apps. The version being passed around is 1.0.6. How about releasing an update using an earlier version number (e.g. 1.0.1). Legitimate users probably wouldn't notice/care. However, it would be very confusing on pirate sites where the version number is more i

Re: [android-developers] Re: Piracy Breakdown by Country

Would be good if devs could specify refund policy on app-by-app basis. On 31 August 2010 17:58, Samuel Lawson wrote: > Here is a suggestion for Google. > > Pirates have very clear buying patterns. Most can be spotted easily. > > Analyse the market for buyers who repeatedly buy apps and then get

Re: [android-developers] Re: Piracy Breakdown by Country

Here is a suggestion for Google. Pirates have very clear buying patterns. Most can be spotted easily. Analyse the market for buyers who repeatedly buy apps and then get a refund in under 5 minutes. Then block those users. I can see these guys normally pirate 2 of my apps in the space of 5 minute

[android-developers] Re: Piracy Breakdown by Country

> Back to the main topic, the data does not show that "piracy is indeed a > significant problem", but shows that many non-paying users are using your > app. The big question is would they have paid for your had they not been > able to get hold of the pirate version. That's a very difficult question

Re: [android-developers] Re: Piracy Breakdown by Country

As a side note, I'm amazed at your conversion rate from Lite to Pro. I have 50% as many Lite downloads but only 5% as many Pro downloads. My Lite version gets a 4.5 rating, Pro gets 4.9. Looks like I need to look into those Video and Social Sharing strategies. Currently I just pop up a dialog box

[android-developers] Re: Piracy Breakdown by Country

I've been overwhelmed with responses to this article over the past few days. Let me just say a few things generally about the "study", the results, and the conclusions that one can draw. 1. This study obviously isn't scientific. It's better than anecdotal and intuition to be sure, but it's not s

[android-developers] Re: Piracy Breakdown by Country

Hi Zslot A pirated app install is any installation that has not been paid for. In your case those pirates quickly buying, copying and then getting a refund - may well be posting on websites where others download. So if you see some obvious copying - those copies are then going out to thousands o

[android-developers] Re: Piracy Breakdown by Country

In my app, which has an about 3% piracy rate (Pirate == Person who uninstall is < 20 mins). None of whom are from Australia, even though I have about 10 Australian paid users. So by your stat, I'd expect to see 9 of those guys (gals) to be pirates. -- You received this message because you are s

[android-developers] Re: Piracy Breakdown by Country

Someone else already pointed to the possibility that your app was included in some pirate bundle that raised the number of pirated copies. I'd like to touch on some other possibilities: * Your data is corrupt somehow. ** For example, people from China using proxies in Australia to bypass local re

[android-developers] Re: Piracy Breakdown by Country

hi keylabs: 1 - did you have used a "unique users" feature for your stats ? because while user is not registered, you AAL will push a flurry event. if the user never register it will send an event each time he use the app, so the pirated app will grow indefinitely. wrote: > I am completely surpri

[android-developers] Re: Piracy Breakdown by Country

I am completely surprised at some of the responses here... but I am not at all surprised with your results. I have been selling software for over 10 years before I started developing Android apps and my experience has been that the US always represents the highest amount of piracy. Your "culture of

[android-developers] Re: Piracy Breakdown by Country

Let me give you a scenario that i really DOUBT is happening: 1) Users have Screebl lite installed and then decide they really like it. 2) They then decide to upgrade and get Screebl Pro. 3) Rather than just pick it up off the market (easy) - they scour the internet looking for it to save a few do

Re: [android-developers] Re: Piracy Breakdown by Country

Haven't checked recently but for a while Flurry was (for some reason) reporting Chinese users as Australian. On 28 August 2010 15:40, gosh wrote: > Looking at your numbers again, your 'total installs' for Australia > seem way out-of-whack with the rest of the countries listed, i.e.: > > * Take t

[android-developers] Re: Piracy Breakdown by Country

Looking at your numbers again, your 'total installs' for Australia seem way out-of-whack with the rest of the countries listed, i.e.: * Take the UK versus Australia figures, your total installs are: UK= 335, Australia=321 * There are about 60 million people in the UK, and only 22 million in Austra

[android-developers] Re: Piracy Breakdown by Country

On Aug 28, 9:50 am, Peter Webb wrote: > The figures are clearly and obviously wrong. The most basic common > sense should tell you that. Common sense is often a pretty unreliable metric. Clearly stats based on a single app should not be generalised too much especially (as gosh mentioned earlier)

[android-developers] Re: Piracy Breakdown by Country

I am also an Australian software developer. I can state with absolute certainty that these figures are absolute bullshit. 92% of apps running in Australia are not pirated. It is absolutely ridiculous. Anecdotally, as a developer I have sought our everybody I know with an Android phone, maybe half

[android-developers] Re: Piracy Breakdown by Country

Hi Dave, Thanks for the stats - as disconcerting as they are. As an Australian software developer I was very disappointed to see Australia up top in the percentages on your scale of software pirates, wrt to your app - which I find hard to explain, subjectively or otherwise. I'll make a few point

Re: [android-developers] Re: Piracy Breakdown by Country

On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 3:59 PM, niko20 wrote: > I guess USA is just a bunch of cheap *sses :) > I don't think we needed statistical analysis for this =P - TreKing

[android-developers] Re: Piracy Breakdown by Country

Actually, the largest *contributor* to piracy was the US, but the highest piracy rates (as a percentage of total installs) were elsewhere. For example, the US has a piracy rate (on my app) of about 70%, but Australia is more like 92%. For the countries where apps may be purchased, here's the brea

[android-developers] Re: Piracy Breakdown by Country

Excellent analysis. Once again showing that you can't make assumptions about a market without cold hard data to back it up. Your results found that the largest piracy rates actually occurred in countries where users COULD buy apps ! I guess USA is just a bunch of cheap *sses :) -niko On Aug 26,