On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 11:37 AM Michel Dänzer wrote:
> On 2019-06-21 5:52 p.m., Michel Dänzer wrote:
> >> That was the entire point of kms, and it succeed really well. That's
> >> why I don't think amdgpu doing their own flavour pick is going to help
> >> anyone here,
> > Other drivers are welcom
On 2019-06-21 5:52 p.m., Michel Dänzer wrote:
> On 2019-06-21 5:44 p.m., Daniel Vetter wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 05:15:22PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
>>> On 2019-06-21 1:50 p.m., Daniel Vetter wrote:
On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 1:37 PM Christian König
wrote:
> Am 21.06.19 um 13
On 2019-06-21 5:44 p.m., Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 05:15:22PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
>> On 2019-06-21 1:50 p.m., Daniel Vetter wrote:
>>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 1:37 PM Christian König
>>> wrote:
Am 21.06.19 um 13:03 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
> So if you want to de
On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 05:15:22PM +0200, Michel Dänzer wrote:
> On 2019-06-21 1:50 p.m., Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 1:37 PM Christian König
> > wrote:
> >> Am 21.06.19 um 13:03 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
> >>> So if you want to depracate render functionality on primary nodes, yo
On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 01:00:17PM +, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> Am 21.06.19 um 14:47 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> > On 2019/06/21, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> >> Am 21.06.19 um 13:58 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> >>> On 2019/06/21, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> Am 21.06.19 um 12:53 schrieb Emil Velikov:
On 2019-06-21 1:58 p.m., Emil Velikov wrote:
> On 2019/06/21, Koenig, Christian wrote:
>> Am 21.06.19 um 12:53 schrieb Emil Velikov:
>>> On 2019/06/21, Koenig, Christian wrote:
>
> In particular, that user-space will "remove" render nodes.
Yes, that is my main concern here. You basically
On 2019-06-21 1:50 p.m., Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 1:37 PM Christian König
> wrote:
>> Am 21.06.19 um 13:03 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
>>> So if you want to depracate render functionality on primary nodes, you
>>> _have_ to do that hiding in userspace. Or you'll break a lot of
>>>
Am 21.06.19 um 14:47 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> On 2019/06/21, Koenig, Christian wrote:
>> Am 21.06.19 um 13:58 schrieb Emil Velikov:
>>> On 2019/06/21, Koenig, Christian wrote:
Am 21.06.19 um 12:53 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> On 2019/06/21, Koenig, Christian wrote:
>> [SNIP]
>> Well part
On 2019/06/21, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> Am 21.06.19 um 13:58 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> > On 2019/06/21, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> >> Am 21.06.19 um 12:53 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> >>> On 2019/06/21, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> [SNIP]
> Well partially. That RADV broke is unfortunate, but we
Am 21.06.19 um 13:58 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> On 2019/06/21, Koenig, Christian wrote:
>> Am 21.06.19 um 12:53 schrieb Emil Velikov:
>>> On 2019/06/21, Koenig, Christian wrote:
[SNIP]
Well partially. That RADV broke is unfortunate, but we have done so many
customized userspace stuff bo
On 2019/06/21, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 1:50 PM Daniel Vetter wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 1:37 PM Christian König
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Am 21.06.19 um 13:03 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
> > > > On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 12:31 PM Koenig, Christian
> > > > wrote:
> > > >>
On 2019/06/21, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> Am 21.06.19 um 12:53 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> > On 2019/06/21, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> >> [SNIP]
> >> Well partially. That RADV broke is unfortunate, but we have done so many
> >> customized userspace stuff both based on Mesa/DDX as well as closed
> >> so
On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 1:50 PM Daniel Vetter wrote:
>
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 1:37 PM Christian König
> wrote:
> >
> > Am 21.06.19 um 13:03 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
> > > On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 12:31 PM Koenig, Christian
> > > wrote:
> > >> Am 21.06.19 um 12:20 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> > >>> In
On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 1:37 PM Christian König
wrote:
>
> Am 21.06.19 um 13:03 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
> > On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 12:31 PM Koenig, Christian
> > wrote:
> >> Am 21.06.19 um 12:20 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> >>> In particular, that user-space will "remove" render nodes.
> >> Yes, that
Am 21.06.19 um 13:03 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 12:31 PM Koenig, Christian
wrote:
Am 21.06.19 um 12:20 schrieb Emil Velikov:
In particular, that user-space will "remove" render nodes.
Yes, that is my main concern here. You basically make render nodes
superfluously. That gi
Am 21.06.19 um 12:53 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> On 2019/06/21, Koenig, Christian wrote:
>> [SNIP]
>> Well partially. That RADV broke is unfortunate, but we have done so many
>> customized userspace stuff both based on Mesa/DDX as well as closed
>> source components that it is just highly likely that w
On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 12:31 PM Koenig, Christian
wrote:
> Am 21.06.19 um 12:20 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> > In particular, that user-space will "remove" render nodes.
>
> Yes, that is my main concern here. You basically make render nodes
> superfluously. That gives userspace all legitimization to a
On 2019/06/21, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> No this should apply to all drivers, not just amdgpu.
>
> > While I suggested:
> > - keeping amdgpu consistent with the rest
> > - exposing the KConfig option for the whole of the kernel, and
> > - merging it alongside this work
> >
> > So I effectiv
Am 21.06.19 um 12:20 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> On 2019/06/21, Daniel Vetter wrote:
>> On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 11:25 AM Koenig, Christian
>> wrote:
>>> Am 21.06.19 um 11:09 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 07:12:14AM +, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> Am 20.06.19 um 18:30 schrie
On 2019/06/21, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 11:25 AM Koenig, Christian
> wrote:
> >
> > Am 21.06.19 um 11:09 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
> > > On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 07:12:14AM +, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> > >> Am 20.06.19 um 18:30 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> > >>> On 2019/06/14, Ko
Am 21.06.19 um 11:35 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 11:25 AM Koenig, Christian
wrote:
Am 21.06.19 um 11:09 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 07:12:14AM +, Koenig, Christian wrote:
Am 20.06.19 um 18:30 schrieb Emil Velikov:
On 2019/06/14, Koenig, Christian wro
On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 11:25 AM Koenig, Christian
wrote:
>
> Am 21.06.19 um 11:09 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
> > On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 07:12:14AM +, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> >> Am 20.06.19 um 18:30 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> >>> On 2019/06/14, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> Am 14.06.19 um 17:53
Am 21.06.19 um 11:09 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
> On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 07:12:14AM +, Koenig, Christian wrote:
>> Am 20.06.19 um 18:30 schrieb Emil Velikov:
>>> On 2019/06/14, Koenig, Christian wrote:
Am 14.06.19 um 17:53 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> On 2019/06/14, Koenig, Christian wrote:
>>
On Fri, Jun 21, 2019 at 07:12:14AM +, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> Am 20.06.19 um 18:30 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> > On 2019/06/14, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> >> Am 14.06.19 um 17:53 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> >>> On 2019/06/14, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> Am 14.06.19 um 14:09 schrieb Emil Velikov:
Am 21.06.19 um 09:41 schrieb Michel Dänzer:
> On 2019-06-21 9:12 a.m., Koenig, Christian wrote:
>> First of all I tried to disable DRM authentication completely with a
>> kernel config option. Surprisingly that actually works out of the box at
>> least on the AMDGPU stack.
>>
>> This effectively al
On 2019-06-21 9:12 a.m., Koenig, Christian wrote:
>
> First of all I tried to disable DRM authentication completely with a
> kernel config option. Surprisingly that actually works out of the box at
> least on the AMDGPU stack.
>
> This effectively allows us to get rid of DRI2 and the related se
Am 20.06.19 um 18:30 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> On 2019/06/14, Koenig, Christian wrote:
>> Am 14.06.19 um 17:53 schrieb Emil Velikov:
>>> On 2019/06/14, Koenig, Christian wrote:
Am 14.06.19 um 14:09 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> On 2019/05/27, Emil Velikov wrote:
> [SNIP]
> Hi Christian,
>>
On 2019/06/14, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> Am 14.06.19 um 17:53 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> > On 2019/06/14, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> >> Am 14.06.19 um 14:09 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> >>> On 2019/05/27, Emil Velikov wrote:
> >>> [SNIP]
> >>> Hi Christian,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> In the following, I would like
On 2019/06/14, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> Am 14.06.19 um 17:53 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> > On 2019/06/14, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> >> Am 14.06.19 um 14:09 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> >>> On 2019/05/27, Emil Velikov wrote:
> >>> [SNIP]
> >>> Hi Christian,
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> In the following, I would like
Am 14.06.19 um 17:53 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> On 2019/06/14, Koenig, Christian wrote:
>> Am 14.06.19 um 14:09 schrieb Emil Velikov:
>>> On 2019/05/27, Emil Velikov wrote:
>>> [SNIP]
>>> Hi Christian,
>>>
>>>
>>> In the following, I would like to summarise and emphasize the need for
>>> DRM_AUTH remo
On 2019/06/14, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> Am 14.06.19 um 14:09 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> > On 2019/05/27, Emil Velikov wrote:
> > [SNIP]
> > Hi Christian,
> >
> >
> > In the following, I would like to summarise and emphasize the need for
> > DRM_AUTH removal. I would kindly ask you to spend a couple
On 2019-06-14 2:55 p.m., Koenig, Christian wrote:
> Am 14.06.19 um 14:09 schrieb Emil Velikov:
>
>> That said, the proposal will not conflict with the DRM_AUTH removal. If
>> anything it is step 0.5 of the grand master plan.
>
> That's the point I strongly disagree on.
>
> By lowering the DRM_AU
Am 14.06.19 um 14:09 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> On 2019/05/27, Emil Velikov wrote:
> [SNIP]
> Hi Christian,
>
>
> In the following, I would like to summarise and emphasize the need for
> DRM_AUTH removal. I would kindly ask you to spend a couple of minutes
> extra reading it.
>
>
> Today DRM drivers*
On 2019/05/27, Emil Velikov wrote:
> From: Emil Velikov
>
> Currently one can circumvent DRM_AUTH, when the ioctl is exposed via the
> render node. A seemingly deliberate design decision.
>
> Hence we can drop the DRM_AUTH all together (details in follow-up patch)
> yet not all userspace checks
On 2019/05/31, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> Am 29.05.19 um 18:29 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> > On 2019/05/29, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> >> Am 29.05.19 um 15:03 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> >>> On 2019/05/29, Dave Airlie wrote:
> On Wed, 29 May 2019 at 02:47, Emil Velikov
> wrote:
> > On 2019/
On Tue, Jun 4, 2019 at 1:24 PM Koenig, Christian
wrote:
>
> Am 04.06.19 um 12:50 schrieb Michel Dänzer:
> > On 2019-05-28 10:03 a.m., Koenig, Christian wrote:
> >> I rather think that we should go down the route of completely dropping
> >> command submission and buffer allocation through the prima
Am 04.06.19 um 12:50 schrieb Michel Dänzer:
> On 2019-05-28 10:03 a.m., Koenig, Christian wrote:
>> I rather think that we should go down the route of completely dropping
>> command submission and buffer allocation through the primary node for
>> non master clients. And then as next step at some po
On 2019-05-28 10:03 a.m., Koenig, Christian wrote:
>
> I rather think that we should go down the route of completely dropping
> command submission and buffer allocation through the primary node for
> non master clients. And then as next step at some point drop support for
> authentication/flink
Am 29.05.19 um 18:29 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> On 2019/05/29, Koenig, Christian wrote:
>> Am 29.05.19 um 15:03 schrieb Emil Velikov:
>>> On 2019/05/29, Dave Airlie wrote:
On Wed, 29 May 2019 at 02:47, Emil Velikov
wrote:
> On 2019/05/28, Koenig, Christian wrote:
>> Am 28.05.19 um
On 2019/05/29, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> Am 29.05.19 um 15:03 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> > On 2019/05/29, Dave Airlie wrote:
> >> On Wed, 29 May 2019 at 02:47, Emil Velikov
> >> wrote:
> >>> On 2019/05/28, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> Am 28.05.19 um 18:10 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> > On 2019/05
Am 29.05.19 um 15:03 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> On 2019/05/29, Dave Airlie wrote:
>> On Wed, 29 May 2019 at 02:47, Emil Velikov wrote:
>>> On 2019/05/28, Koenig, Christian wrote:
Am 28.05.19 um 18:10 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> On 2019/05/28, Daniel Vetter wrote:
>> On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 1
On 2019/05/29, Dave Airlie wrote:
> On Wed, 29 May 2019 at 02:47, Emil Velikov wrote:
> >
> > On 2019/05/28, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> > > Am 28.05.19 um 18:10 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> > > > On 2019/05/28, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > > >> On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 10:03 AM Koenig, Christian
> > > >> w
On Wed, 29 May 2019 at 02:47, Emil Velikov wrote:
>
> On 2019/05/28, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> > Am 28.05.19 um 18:10 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> > > On 2019/05/28, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> > >> On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 10:03 AM Koenig, Christian
> > >> wrote:
> > >>> Am 28.05.19 um 09:38 schrieb Danie
On 2019/05/28, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> Am 28.05.19 um 18:10 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> > On 2019/05/28, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> >> On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 10:03 AM Koenig, Christian
> >> wrote:
> >>> Am 28.05.19 um 09:38 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
> [SNIP]
> > Might be a good idea looking into
Am 28.05.19 um 18:10 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> On 2019/05/28, Daniel Vetter wrote:
>> On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 10:03 AM Koenig, Christian
>> wrote:
>>> Am 28.05.19 um 09:38 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
[SNIP]
> Might be a good idea looking into reverting it partially, so that at
> least comman
On 2019/05/28, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 10:03 AM Koenig, Christian
> wrote:
> >
> > Am 28.05.19 um 09:38 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
> > > [SNIP]
> > >> Might be a good idea looking into reverting it partially, so that at
> > >> least command submission and buffer allocation is st
On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 10:03 AM Koenig, Christian
wrote:
>
> Am 28.05.19 um 09:38 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
> > [SNIP]
> >> Might be a good idea looking into reverting it partially, so that at
> >> least command submission and buffer allocation is still blocked.
> > I thought the issue is a lot more
Am 28.05.19 um 09:38 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
> [SNIP]
>> Might be a good idea looking into reverting it partially, so that at
>> least command submission and buffer allocation is still blocked.
> I thought the issue is a lot more than vainfo, it's pretty much every
> hacked up compositor under the s
On Tue, May 28, 2019 at 8:58 AM Koenig, Christian
wrote:
>
> Am 27.05.19 um 17:26 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
> > On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 3:42 PM Koenig, Christian
> > wrote:
> >> Am 27.05.19 um 15:26 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> >>> On 2019/05/27, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 10:47:
Am 27.05.19 um 17:26 schrieb Daniel Vetter:
> On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 3:42 PM Koenig, Christian
> wrote:
>> Am 27.05.19 um 15:26 schrieb Emil Velikov:
>>> On 2019/05/27, Daniel Vetter wrote:
On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 10:47:39AM +, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> Am 27.05.19 um 10:17 schrieb
On 2019/05/27, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> Am 27.05.19 um 15:26 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> > On 2019/05/27, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> >> On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 10:47:39AM +, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> >>> Am 27.05.19 um 10:17 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> From: Emil Velikov
>
> Currently on
On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 3:42 PM Koenig, Christian
wrote:
>
> Am 27.05.19 um 15:26 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> > On 2019/05/27, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> >> On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 10:47:39AM +, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> >>> Am 27.05.19 um 10:17 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> From: Emil Velikov
>
On 2019/05/27, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 09:17:29AM +0100, Emil Velikov wrote:
> > From: Emil Velikov
> >
> > Currently one can circumvent DRM_AUTH, when the ioctl is exposed via the
> > render node. A seemingly deliberate design decision.
> >
> > Hence we can drop the DRM_A
Am 27.05.19 um 15:26 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> On 2019/05/27, Daniel Vetter wrote:
>> On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 10:47:39AM +, Koenig, Christian wrote:
>>> Am 27.05.19 um 10:17 schrieb Emil Velikov:
From: Emil Velikov
Currently one can circumvent DRM_AUTH, when the ioctl is exposed v
On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 3:26 PM Daniel Vetter wrote:
>
> On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 01:52:05PM +0100, Emil Velikov wrote:
> > On 2019/05/27, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> > > Am 27.05.19 um 14:05 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> > > > On 2019/05/27, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> > > >> Am 27.05.19 um 10:17 schrieb
On 2019/05/27, Daniel Vetter wrote:
> On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 10:47:39AM +, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> > Am 27.05.19 um 10:17 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> > > From: Emil Velikov
> > >
> > > Currently one can circumvent DRM_AUTH, when the ioctl is exposed via the
> > > render node. A seemingly delib
On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 01:52:05PM +0100, Emil Velikov wrote:
> On 2019/05/27, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> > Am 27.05.19 um 14:05 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> > > On 2019/05/27, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> > >> Am 27.05.19 um 10:17 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> > >>> From: Emil Velikov
> > >>>
> > >>> Currentl
On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 10:47:39AM +, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> Am 27.05.19 um 10:17 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> > From: Emil Velikov
> >
> > Currently one can circumvent DRM_AUTH, when the ioctl is exposed via the
> > render node. A seemingly deliberate design decision.
> >
> > Hence we can drop
On Mon, May 27, 2019 at 09:17:29AM +0100, Emil Velikov wrote:
> From: Emil Velikov
>
> Currently one can circumvent DRM_AUTH, when the ioctl is exposed via the
> render node. A seemingly deliberate design decision.
>
> Hence we can drop the DRM_AUTH all together (details in follow-up patch)
> ye
On 2019/05/27, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> Am 27.05.19 um 14:05 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> > On 2019/05/27, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> >> Am 27.05.19 um 10:17 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> >>> From: Emil Velikov
> >>>
> >>> Currently one can circumvent DRM_AUTH, when the ioctl is exposed via the
> >>> rende
Am 27.05.19 um 14:05 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> On 2019/05/27, Koenig, Christian wrote:
>> Am 27.05.19 um 10:17 schrieb Emil Velikov:
>>> From: Emil Velikov
>>>
>>> Currently one can circumvent DRM_AUTH, when the ioctl is exposed via the
>>> render node. A seemingly deliberate design decision.
>>>
>>
On 2019/05/27, Koenig, Christian wrote:
> Am 27.05.19 um 10:17 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> > From: Emil Velikov
> >
> > Currently one can circumvent DRM_AUTH, when the ioctl is exposed via the
> > render node. A seemingly deliberate design decision.
> >
> > Hence we can drop the DRM_AUTH all together
Am 27.05.19 um 10:17 schrieb Emil Velikov:
> From: Emil Velikov
>
> Currently one can circumvent DRM_AUTH, when the ioctl is exposed via the
> render node. A seemingly deliberate design decision.
>
> Hence we can drop the DRM_AUTH all together (details in follow-up patch)
> yet not all userspace c
From: Emil Velikov
Currently one can circumvent DRM_AUTH, when the ioctl is exposed via the
render node. A seemingly deliberate design decision.
Hence we can drop the DRM_AUTH all together (details in follow-up patch)
yet not all userspace checks if it's authenticated, but instead uses
uncommon
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