Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-02 Thread Bill Unruh
On Sat, 1 Feb 2014, jon wrote: ... > On a more practical front cant the user just use pulse and the padsp > wrapper. Pulse is just an audio server (with mixing) that sits on top > of alsa, padsp is a wrapper for legacy audio applications that emulates > the original /dev/dsp, mixes down the audi

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-02 Thread Bill Unruh
On Sun, 2 Feb 2014, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2014-02-02 at 00:35 +0100, Dominique Michel wrote: >> You are a developer. That imply the best way you can get this fixed is >> to stop to complain, fix it, and contribute your fix to ALSA. > > JFTR this is an ALSA user mailing list and not an OSS

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-02 Thread John Haxby
On 2 Feb 2014, at 14:27, ChaosEsque Team wrote: > Init has be around longer than the linux implementation of *nix. Aside from the for(;;) wait(0); loop, there’s little in common between the Linux and, say, BSD implementations of init, especially in recent versions. The name for the process wh

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-02 Thread ChaosEsque Team
Init has be around longer than the linux implementation of *nix. On Sun, 2/2/14, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing. To: alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Sunday, February 2, 2014, 3:51 AM O

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-02 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sat, 2014-02-01 at 16:40 -0800, ChaosEsque Team wrote: > things that worked for 40 years suddenly need to change. "The defining component of Linux is the Linux kernel, an operating system kernel first released on 5 October 1991 by Linus Torvalds." - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux And plea

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-02 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Sun, 2014-02-02 at 00:35 +0100, Dominique Michel wrote: > You are a developer. That imply the best way you can get this fixed is > to stop to complain, fix it, and contribute your fix to ALSA. JFTR this is an ALSA user mailing list and not an OSS or kernel mailing list. Apart from the tone of v

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-01 Thread Dominique Michel
10 years. > > You are a developer. That imply the best way you can get > this fixed is > to stop to complain, fix it, and contribute your fix to > ALSA. > > Best, > Dominique > > > > > Windows and Mac have had nonblocking sound forever, > be

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-01 Thread Dominique Michel
or that old people are worthless > and things that worked for 40 years suddenly need to change. > > Thank you for your help. > > > > ---------------- > On Sat, 2/1/14, Beojan Stanislaus wrote: > > Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulati

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-01 Thread ChaosEsque Team
ly need to change. Thank you for your help. On Sat, 2/1/14, Beojan Stanislaus wrote: Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing. To: "ChaosEsque Team" Date: Saturday, February 1, 2014, 2:33 PM Can you please refr

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-01 Thread A. C. Censi
Be served: http://www.4front-tech.com/oss.html Binaries from http://www.4front-tech.com/download.cgi Source code on http://developer.opensound.com/ ACC On Saturday, February 1, 2014, jon wrote: > > > > It is absolute bullshit that /dev/dsp doe not mix. Bullshit. It's > > > been bullshit for

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-01 Thread jon
> > It is absolute bullshit that /dev/dsp doe not mix. Bullshit. It's > > been bullshit for 10 years. I also agree (though in much more polite terms) that any emulation of /dev/dsp should (if possible, mix). It would be great if distributions had a /dev/dsp device node that resulted in mixed aud

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-01 Thread ChaosEsque Team
-- On Sat, 2/1/14, Beojan Stanislaus wrote: Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing. To: "ChaosEsque Team" Date: Saturday, February 1, 2014, 2:33 PM Can you please refrain from being so rude. For some reason I felt it wo

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-01 Thread ChaosEsque Team
, Dominique Michel wrote: Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing. To: alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Saturday, February 1, 2014, 3:35 PM Le Sat, 1 Feb 2014 13:47:53 -0800 (PST), ChaosEsque Team a écrit : > The unix way is that "everything is a fi

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-01 Thread Dominique Michel
it, and contribute your fix to ALSA. Best, Dominique > > Windows and Mac have had nonblocking sound forever, before linux. > > ---------------- > On Sat, 2/1/14, Beojan Stanislaus wrote: > > Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn&#x

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-01 Thread ChaosEsque Team
hinking of things. They do not actually exist. Inodes exist, table look ups exist. Files do not, until you print them out. On Sat, 2/1/14, Beojan Stanislaus wrote: Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing. To: "ChaosEsqu

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-01 Thread ChaosEsque Team
or any other kind of thing that needs to be locked. You know your argument is utter worthless crap. The BSDs do it the correct way and that is the fact. On Sat, 2/1/14, Beojan Stanislaus wrote: Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-01 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
not mix. Bullshit. It's been > bullshit for > 10 years. > > Windows and Mac have had nonblocking sound forever, before linux. > > ------------ > On Sat, 2/1/14, Beojan Stanislaus wrote: > > Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doe

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-01 Thread ChaosEsque Team
t. It's been bullshit for 10 years. Windows and Mac have had nonblocking sound forever, before linux. On Sat, 2/1/14, Beojan Stanislaus wrote: Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing. To: "ChaosEsque Team" , al

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-01 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
ommercial > license. > > > ------------------------ > On Sat, 2/1/14, Beojan Stanislaus wrote: > > Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing. > To: "ChaosEsque Team" > Date: Saturday, February 1, 2014, 2:50 AM &g

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-01 Thread ChaosEsque Team
back then. The opensource version was hobbled to get people to buy a commercial license. On Sat, 2/1/14, Beojan Stanislaus wrote: Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing. To: "ChaosEsque Team" Date: Saturday, Feb

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-02-01 Thread ChaosEsque Team
. On Fri, 1/31/14, Bill Unruh wrote: Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing. To: "Beojan Stanislaus" Cc: alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Friday, January 31, 2014, 9:11 AM On Fri, 31 Jan 2014, Beojan Stanislaus w

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-01-31 Thread Bill Unruh
On Fri, 31 Jan 2014, Beojan Stanislaus wrote: > I am not a developer, just a user who was shocked by the tone of your > email. However I highly doubt that oss will be included in the kernel > again. This its because most applications on Linux have been written using > alsa, sand it appears oss has

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-01-31 Thread ChaosEsque Team
he 3d game works fine with alsa. Everything's great there. On Fri, 1/31/14, Beojan Stanislaus wrote: Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing. To: "ChaosEsque Team" , alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Fri

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-01-31 Thread Beojan Stanislaus
sa? > > I heard OSS 4 is all opensource again. Is this true? Will it be headed > towards the kernel for inclusion? > ---------------- > On Fri, 1/31/14, Beojan Stanislaus wrote: > > Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-01-31 Thread ChaosEsque Team
Now you call me a coward, though you've never met me. You want to say that to my face? On Fri, 1/31/14, Ralf Mardorf wrote: Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing. To: alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net Date: Friday,

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-01-31 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2014-01-30 at 13:53 -0800, ChaosEsque Team wrote: > I would (God willing) continue beating you while kneeling over you > untill you had to spend the next four years in the hospital You're a sophomoric coward and off cause "ChaosEsque Team" is marked as spam on my machine. There's nothing w

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-01-31 Thread ChaosEsque Team
at the shit out of them to the ground I hope. Fuck them. Old apps should mix too. It is bullshit that a decade after alsa was made you people still keep things broke for retarded political reasons. It is bullshit. On Thu, 1/30/14, Robert M. Rich

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-01-30 Thread Robert M. Riches Jr.
ChaosEsque Team, Congratulations on being first person from a mailing list that I have ever added to an email deny list. If you can't accept reasonable advice without foul-mouthed reviling and threats of violence against a benefactor, you aren't allowed in my inbox. Robert > Date: Thu, 30 Jan

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-01-30 Thread ChaosEsque Team
ne else now, try to shut down and ignore all other views by claiming "trooolling". FUCK YOU. ---------------- On Wed, 1/29/14, Bill Unruh wrote: Subject: Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing. To: "ChaosEsque Team" Cc: als

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-01-29 Thread Bill Unruh
Oss never allowed mixing. This is an emulation of oss. It does not allow mixing. If you want mixing uses alsa with a frontend. Or get the newer oss implimentations. On Wed, 29 Jan 2014, ChaosEsque Team wrote: > Why doesn't OSS emulation allow mixing. I got old OSS aps still blocking > /dev/dsp.

Re: [Alsa-user] OSS emulation doesn't allow mixing.

2014-01-29 Thread Daniel Mack
On 01/30/2014 01:12 AM, ChaosEsque Team wrote: > Why doesn't OSS emulation allow mixing. I got old OSS aps still blocking > /dev/dsp. > Comon, please do the code to allow mixing like alsa apps. > It's been years and years. Go troll some other list please. ---