Le Sat, 29 Jul 2006 04:31:33 +0300,
Sergei Steshenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> a écrit :
> On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:21:19 -0700 (PDT)
> Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:20:08 -0700 (PDT)
> > > Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PRO
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:21:19 -0700 (PDT)
> Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:20:08 -0700 (PDT)
>>> Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006,
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 18:21:19 -0700 (PDT)
Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:20:08 -0700 (PDT)
> > Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Fri, 28 Jul 20
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:20:08 -0700 (PDT)
> Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:20:57 -0400
>>> Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>>
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 23:38
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 15:20:08 -0700 (PDT)
Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:20:57 -0400
> > Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 23:38 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> >>> My logic is si
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:20:57 -0400
> Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 23:38 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
>>> My logic is simple:
>>>
>>> * if you are saying that a feature is supported, this means you've
>>> tested it
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 01:11 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> You don't seem to understand that some end ALSA users have exactly
> the same HW as the one used by ALSA developers to develop the driver.
>
> Having the controls of tested features written down would really help
> such ALSA users.
>
A
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:52:08 -0400
Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 00:47 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> > It should be 'why', not 'what' in "what the controls for each tested
> > feature ...".
>
> You don't seem to understand that vendors can customize the hardware
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 00:54 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> Then what was exactly the report claiming that M-Audio Revolution 5.1
> indeed worked ?
>
> Where can end users find in order to read it ans assess its
> credibility ?
>
> That is, to see whether the end user indeed checked the featured
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:47:37 -0400
Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 00:38 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> > Do you, the developers, test the card before announcing it as
> > supported ?
> >
>
> No, the ALSA developers rely on feedback from users to determine what is
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 00:47 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> It should be 'why', not 'what' in "what the controls for each tested
> feature ...".
You don't seem to understand that vendors can customize the hardware
such that the same mixer controls do different things on different
devices. The on
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 00:38 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> Do you, the developers, test the card before announcing it as
> supported ?
>
No, the ALSA developers rely on feedback from users to determine what is
supported. The ALSA developers only have access to a small fraction of
the supported
On Sat, 29 Jul 2006 00:38:03 +0300
Sergei Steshenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:20:57 -0400
> Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 23:38 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> > > My logic is simple:
> > >
> > > * if you are saying that a feature is
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:20:57 -0400
Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 23:38 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> > My logic is simple:
> >
> > * if you are saying that a feature is supported, this means you've
> > tested it - otherwise you are simply irresponsible.
>
> Yo
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 17:10:36 -0400
Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 00:03 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> > Did you help the guy with M-Audio Revolution 5.1 ?
> >
> > I DID tell him everything I knew based on my M-Audio Revolution 7.1,
> > but, apparently, the cards
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 23:38 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> My logic is simple:
>
> * if you are saying that a feature is supported, this means you've
> tested it - otherwise you are simply irresponsible.
You're assuming that ALSA developers have access to every sound card
that ALSA supports wh
On Sat, 2006-07-29 at 00:03 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> Did you help the guy with M-Audio Revolution 5.1 ?
>
> I DID tell him everything I knew based on my M-Audio Revolution 7.1,
> but, apparently, the cards are different.
>
> Are you satisfied that yet another ALSA end user stepped on the
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 16:49:16 -0400
Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 23:38 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> > What I know, is that when I bought M-Audio Revoluion 7.1 - fully
> > supported
> > by ALSA, I couldn't make "capture loopback" work - documentation said
> > not
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 23:38 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> What I know, is that when I bought M-Audio Revoluion 7.1 - fully
> supported
> by ALSA, I couldn't make "capture loopback" work - documentation said
> nothing
> on it.
Blah blah blah, same old inflammatory complaints, no offer to help..
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 12:04:28 -0700 (PDT)
Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
>
> > On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:07:51 -0400
> > Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 12:47 +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> >>> Yes, I talk about
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 22:03 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> Look, after more than a year you added a phrase about no need of
> .asoundrc.
Um... this is documented all over the place. The page that I added it
to is not even maintained by the ALSA team.
And I am NOT an "ALSA developer". If you
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:07:51 -0400
> Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 12:47 +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
>>> Yes, I talk about useability which just sucks. I imagine a more clear
>>> frontend/backend infrastructure, an ul
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 14:52:55 -0400
Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 21:48 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> > If you, the developers, have already written the driver and know
> > how it works, what hardware specs do you need ?
> >
> > It's the documentation issue and/o
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 21:48 +0300, Sergei Steshenko wrote:
> If you, the developers, have already written the driver and know
> how it works, what hardware specs do you need ?
>
> It's the documentation issue and/or HAL issue. The guy expresses my
> thoughts very well.
>
> I'm glad yet another en
On Fri, 28 Jul 2006 11:07:51 -0400
Lee Revell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 12:47 +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> > Yes, I talk about useability which just sucks. I imagine a more clear
> > frontend/backend infrastructure, an ultimate solution:
> >
> > - access to all backend s
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 12:47 +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> Could I get a copy of that patch?
>
Check the alsa-devel archive.
> Honnestly, the current set of mixer controls is cumbersome. $user can
> hardly understand what all the controls are good for, and mixer
> software is not user-friendly eit
On Fri, 2006-07-28 at 12:47 +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> Yes, I talk about useability which just sucks. I imagine a more clear
> frontend/backend infrastructure, an ultimate solution:
>
> - access to all backend settings is exported with consistent, fixed
> names
>(keywords)
> - a wrapper in
Eduard Bloch wrote:
...
>
> Honnestly, the current set of mixer controls is cumbersome. $user can
> hardly understand what all the controls are good for, and mixer software
> is not user-friendly either. The Live! mixer from Creative gives you a
> "joystick" control where you can move the marker a
#include
* Takashi Iwai [Thu, Jul 27 2006, 01:12:34PM]:
> At Mon, 24 Jul 2006 14:40:12 -0400,
> Lee Revell wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 20:30 +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I try to make my 5.1 speaker set work properly on an SB Live! Player
> > > with Alsa from kern
At Mon, 24 Jul 2006 14:40:12 -0400,
Lee Revell wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 20:30 +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I try to make my 5.1 speaker set work properly on an SB Live! Player
> > with Alsa from kernel 2.6.17. Most things work well, but there is
> > something that feels l
On Mon, 2006-07-24 at 20:30 +0200, Eduard Bloch wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I try to make my 5.1 speaker set work properly on an SB Live! Player
> with Alsa from kernel 2.6.17. Most things work well, but there is
> something that feels like a bug or inconsistency in user interface:
>
> The volume for rea
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