Re: [Alsa-user] Changing device while stream is running

2017-10-22 Thread John Z.
> I understand that, but it was pointed out that alsa could not do that "out of > the box", and pulse audio could. And you have said that you wanted to use > software that does stuff that others cannot. Maybe I made a mistake in reading the order of the messages. Until the last Mr. Clemens's messa

Re: [Alsa-user] Changing device while stream is running

2017-10-22 Thread Bill Unruh
On Sun, 22 Oct 2017, John Z. wrote: I thought this whole thread was about stuff that PA could do and alsa on its own could not. Well, that'd be my mistake I guess. I should've been clearer and specify in my opening post that I'd like to solve this using just alsa. I assumed that this would be

Re: [Alsa-user] Changing device while stream is running

2017-10-22 Thread John Z.
> I thought this whole thread was about stuff that PA could do and alsa on its > own could not. Well, that'd be my mistake I guess. I should've been clearer and specify in my opening post that I'd like to solve this using just alsa. I assumed that this would be implied, given that I am asking for

Re: [Alsa-user] Changing device while stream is running

2017-10-22 Thread Bill Unruh
On Sun, 22 Oct 2017, John Z. wrote: What is so bad about PA that an ALSA plugin would do better? I wouldn't know, really, if there is anything bad to begin with? Last two opinions that I read on the subject were that PA used to be bad in the beginning but its great now, and that in general is

Re: [Alsa-user] Changing device while stream is running

2017-10-22 Thread John Z.
> What is so bad about PA that an ALSA plugin would do better? I wouldn't know, really, if there is anything bad to begin with? Last two opinions that I read on the subject were that PA used to be bad in the beginning but its great now, and that in general is not necessary on the system at all sin

Re: [Alsa-user] Changing device while stream is running

2017-10-22 Thread Clemens Ladisch via Alsa-user
John Z. wrote: >> There is no plugin that can do this dynamically, except "pulse". > > That's a bit unfortunate, as I've put a lot of effort to learn enough > about alsa so that I can be able to remove PA from my system. What is so bad about PA that an ALSA plugin would do better? > I don't mind

Re: [Alsa-user] Changing device while stream is running

2017-10-22 Thread John Z.
> There is no plugin that can do this dynamically, except "pulse". That's a bit unfortunate, as I've put a lot of effort to learn enough about alsa so that I can be able to remove PA from my system. I don't mind writing some code; do you think it'd be feasible to write a plugin to accomplish such

Re: [Alsa-user] Changing device while stream is running

2017-10-21 Thread Clemens Ladisch via Alsa-user
John Z. wrote: > My general problem is: I'd like to be able to switch device that > plays audio, while the audio stream is working - without player > application knowing anything happened. PulseAudio can do this. > My current asoundrc can switch the card through environmental >