Re: [Alsa-user] I think that the current state of ALSA is poor

2013-12-05 Thread Clemens Ladisch
wemp...@gmail.com wrote: > On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 10:15:05AM +0100, Clemens Ladisch wrote: >> Check the value of the "Digital" mixer control. > > You are right. When Digital control is set to 0 then arecord doesn't > work with giving a device name explicitly. Does it look like a bug? If setting t

Re: [Alsa-user] I think that the current state of ALSA is poor

2013-12-05 Thread wempwer
On Thu, Dec 05, 2013 at 10:15:05AM +0100, Clemens Ladisch wrote: > wemp...@gmail.com wrote: > > Today, I was able to reproduce a situation with `arecord' not > > recording any sound without giving a device name explicitly. > > > > $ arecord -v -f dat -d 3 test.wav > > Recording WAVE 'test.wav' : Si

Re: [Alsa-user] I think that the current state of ALSA is poor

2013-12-05 Thread Clemens Ladisch
wemp...@gmail.com wrote: > Today, I was able to reproduce a situation with `arecord' not > recording any sound without giving a device name explicitly. > > $ arecord -v -f dat -d 3 test.wav > Recording WAVE 'test.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 48000 Hz, Stereo > Plug PCM: Linear conversio

Re: [Alsa-user] I think that the current state of ALSA is poor

2013-12-04 Thread Roger
>And, I talk about Linux popularity amongst casual users so much >because I have deliberately removed Windows from my parents' Acer >netbook and installed Linux for them and told them that it will be >better. It was taking Windows up to several minutes to start, it was >working slowly but a microph

Re: [Alsa-user] I think that the current state of ALSA is poor

2013-12-04 Thread wempwer
On Wed, Dec 04, 2013 at 09:20:28AM +0100, Clemens Ladisch wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 09:31:57AM +0100, Clemens Ladisch wrote: > >> wemp...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Before I am able to record any sound with arecord I need to go to > > alsamixer and press space in Capture control so that L R C

Re: [Alsa-user] I think that the current state of ALSA is poor

2013-12-04 Thread Clemens Ladisch
wemp...@gmail.com wrote: > On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 09:31:57AM +0100, Clemens Ladisch wrote: >> wemp...@gmail.com wrote: >>> on my HP Pavilion DV6 3015ew with >>> HDA ATI SB the following doesn't record sound: >>> >>> $ arecord -f dat -d 3 test.wav >>> >>> However, when I give a device name sp

Re: [Alsa-user] I think that the current state of ALSA is poor

2013-12-03 Thread wempwer
On Tue, Dec 03, 2013 at 09:31:57AM +0100, Clemens Ladisch wrote: > wemp...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 11:39:09AM +0100, Clemens Ladisch wrote: > >> wemp...@gmail.com wrote: > >>> I wasn't able to use it with my in-built mic until I set capture > >>> device to "OSS: /dev/dsp" in Li

Re: [Alsa-user] I think that the current state of ALSA is poor

2013-12-03 Thread Clemens Ladisch
wemp...@gmail.com wrote: > On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 11:39:09AM +0100, Clemens Ladisch wrote: >> wemp...@gmail.com wrote: >>> I wasn't able to use it with my in-built mic until I set capture >>> device to "OSS: /dev/dsp" in Linphone. >> >> The OSS emulation just redirects /dev/dsp to the default ALSA

Re: [Alsa-user] I think that the current state of ALSA is poor

2013-12-02 Thread Bill Unruh
On Mon, 2 Dec 2013, wemp...@gmail.com wrote: > On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 11:39:09AM +0100, Clemens Ladisch wrote: >> wemp...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> mplayer uses the "default" device by default, unless you have changed >> this in ~/.mplayer/config. > > Damn... Why do they do that? Why does some

Re: [Alsa-user] I think that the current state of ALSA is poor

2013-12-02 Thread wempwer
On Mon, Dec 02, 2013 at 11:39:09AM +0100, Clemens Ladisch wrote: > wemp...@gmail.com wrote: > > 1) my work computer with Ubuntu has HDA Intel PCH soundcard > > installed. Moving PCM slider in alsamixer or muting it has no > > effect. > > Apparently, on this hardware, whatever output you're using i

Re: [Alsa-user] I think that the current state of ALSA is poor

2013-12-02 Thread Clemens Ladisch
wemp...@gmail.com wrote: > 1) my work computer with Ubuntu has HDA Intel PCH soundcard > installed. Moving PCM slider in alsamixer or muting it has no > effect. Apparently, on this hardware, whatever output you're using is not affected by that mixer control. > Moreover, manipulating volume slider

Re: [Alsa-user] I think that the current state of ALSA is poor

2013-12-01 Thread Bill Unruh
On Sun, 1 Dec 2013, wemp...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> True. But your statement is sort of like saying the wheel is engineered >> incorrectly, when the wheel merrily missing lug nuts. >> >> (Likely your distribution flavor has a bug, requiring fixing. Quite common, >> especially with Debian. ;-) >>

Re: [Alsa-user] I think that the current state of ALSA is poor

2013-12-01 Thread Bill Unruh
On Sun, 1 Dec 2013, wemp...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sun, Dec 01, 2013 at 09:16:28PM +0200, D.T.au wrote: >> hello, >> >> most of the examples you are giving are not about alsa but about other sound >> architectures that build on top of that, and software. >> i think you might want to do some readin

Re: [Alsa-user] I think that the current state of ALSA is poor

2013-12-01 Thread Bill Unruh
On Sun, 1 Dec 2013, wemp...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sun, Dec 01, 2013 at 11:03:09AM -0800, Bill Unruh wrote: >> On Sun, 1 Dec 2013, wemp...@gmail.com wrote: >> >>> On my way to become an advanced Linux user I started to learn >>> ALSA. However, it seems that ALSA, and sound system in general on >>>

Re: [Alsa-user] I think that the current state of ALSA is poor

2013-12-01 Thread wempwer
On Sun, Dec 01, 2013 at 10:55:55PM +0100, wemp...@gmail.com wrote: > On Sun, Dec 01, 2013 at 12:24:04PM -0900, Roger wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 01, 2013 at 09:27:52PM +0100, wemp...@gmail.com wrote: > > >On Sun, Dec 01, 2013 at 09:16:28PM +0200, D.T.au wrote: > > >> hello, > > >> > > >> most of the

Re: [Alsa-user] I think that the current state of ALSA is poor

2013-12-01 Thread wempwer
On Sun, Dec 01, 2013 at 12:24:04PM -0900, Roger wrote: > > On Sun, Dec 01, 2013 at 09:27:52PM +0100, wemp...@gmail.com wrote: > >On Sun, Dec 01, 2013 at 09:16:28PM +0200, D.T.au wrote: > >> hello, > >> > >> most of the examples you are giving are not about alsa but about other > >> sound architec

Re: [Alsa-user] I think that the current state of ALSA is poor

2013-12-01 Thread Roger
> On Sun, Dec 01, 2013 at 09:27:52PM +0100, wemp...@gmail.com wrote: >On Sun, Dec 01, 2013 at 09:16:28PM +0200, D.T.au wrote: >> hello, >> >> most of the examples you are giving are not about alsa but about other sound >> architectures that build on top of that, and software. >> i think you might

Re: [Alsa-user] I think that the current state of ALSA is poor

2013-12-01 Thread wempwer
On Sun, Dec 01, 2013 at 09:16:28PM +0200, D.T.au wrote: > hello, > > most of the examples you are giving are not about alsa but about other sound > architectures that build on top of that, and software. > i think you might want to do some reading, e.g. here: > http://tuxradar.com/content/how-it-w

Re: [Alsa-user] I think that the current state of ALSA is poor

2013-12-01 Thread wempwer
On Sun, Dec 01, 2013 at 11:03:09AM -0800, Bill Unruh wrote: > On Sun, 1 Dec 2013, wemp...@gmail.com wrote: > > >On my way to become an advanced Linux user I started to learn > >ALSA. However, it seems that ALSA, and sound system in general on > >Linux, is in a pretty bad state at the moment. Here

Re: [Alsa-user] I think that the current state of ALSA is poor

2013-12-01 Thread D.T.au
hello, most of the examples you are giving are not about alsa but about other sound architectures that build on top of that, and software. i think you might want to do some reading, e.g. here: http://tuxradar.com/content/how-it-works-linux-audio-explained maybe you'll notice that the writer of th

Re: [Alsa-user] I think that the current state of ALSA is poor

2013-12-01 Thread Bill Unruh
On Sun, 1 Dec 2013, wemp...@gmail.com wrote: > On my way to become an advanced Linux user I started to learn > ALSA. However, it seems that ALSA, and sound system in general on > Linux, is in a pretty bad state at the moment. Here are the examples - > don't get me wrong, fix me if I got things wro

[Alsa-user] I think that the current state of ALSA is poor

2013-12-01 Thread wempwer
On my way to become an advanced Linux user I started to learn ALSA. However, it seems that ALSA, and sound system in general on Linux, is in a pretty bad state at the moment. Here are the examples - don't get me wrong, fix me if I got things wrong: 1) my work computer with Ubuntu has HDA Intel PCH