Re: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate

2008-06-12 Thread Chris Smith
On Friday 13 June 2008, Grant wrote: > pcm.my_device Sorry, thought it would be understood that 'my_device' is the alsa alias (in my case the the name of the kernel module without the leading "snd-") for the hardware device in question (see your modules.conf file or whatever is proper for your

Re: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate

2008-06-12 Thread Grant
>> I'm trying to get music from mpd to my USB DAC in 100% untouched >> form. My mpd.conf is as follows: >> >> audio_output { >> type "alsa" >> name "USB Monica" >> device "hw:0,0" >> format "44100:16:2" >> } > > Don't know anything about mpd but you can set up an asoundrc "plug" in > alsa that will

[Alsa-user] asus p5kc sound card problem

2008-06-12 Thread Philippe MONROUX
Hi all, I'm running debian etch with 2.6.18-6-686 kernel. I have a asus p5kc mother board lspci give: 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Unknown device 293e (rev 02) Subsystem: ASUSTeK Computer Inc. Unknown device 829f Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 15

Re: [Alsa-user] how to run jackd on a only-48k-card at 44.1?se

2008-06-12 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 7:00 PM, Roman Haefeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi mark > > thanks a lot for the detailed eplanation. > > On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 18:45 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > >> >> Technically, I think you're looking for a Jack aware resampling >> plugin. you would send your 44.1K so

Re: [Alsa-user] how to run jackd on a only-48k-card at 44.1?se

2008-06-12 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi mark thanks a lot for the detailed eplanation. On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 18:45 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > > Technically, I think you're looking for a Jack aware resampling > plugin. you would send your 44.1K sound file to that device and then > let it resample it to the Jack sample rate - 48K

Re: [Alsa-user] how to run jackd on a only-48k-card at 44.1?se

2008-06-12 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 6:05 PM, Roman Haefeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > are you saying, that it is simply not possible to run jackd over an alsa > plugin, that does resampling or mixing? if so, does that mean, that Yes, I am saying that. Jack communicates directly with the hardware. Jack ge

Re: [Alsa-user] how to run jackd on a only-48k-card at 44.1?se

2008-06-12 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 17:24 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: > On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Roman Haefeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > actually, my problem is not jackd related at all. i cannot use a > > samplerate other than 48k with any application i tried, not only with > > jackd. isn't alsa supp

Re: [Alsa-user] how to run jackd on a only-48k-card at 44.1?

2008-06-12 Thread Mark Knecht
On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 4:30 PM, Roman Haefeli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > actually, my problem is not jackd related at all. i cannot use a > samplerate other than 48k with any application i tried, not only with > jackd. isn't alsa supposed to provide resampling, if necessary? > > i forgot to ment

Re: [Alsa-user] how to run jackd on a only-48k-card at 44.1?

2008-06-12 Thread Roman Haefeli
actually, my problem is not jackd related at all. i cannot use a samplerate other than 48k with any application i tried, not only with jackd. isn't alsa supposed to provide resampling, if necessary? i forgot to mention the hardware: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) AC'97 Audi

Re: [Alsa-user] Float vs. int, was: Re: Unmolested audio

2008-06-12 Thread Chris Smith
On Thursday 12 June 2008, Florian Faber wrote: > So, please tell me - how should a 'pro audio chain' look like? I'm not saying one should never work with floats - I'm sure there's a very good reason for it, but the chain should still be able to support "digital wire" capability if desired. You m

[Alsa-user] how to run jackd on a only-48k-card at 44.1?

2008-06-12 Thread Roman Haefeli
hi all i am not quite sure, if this is the right place to ask, but from what i heard, alsa is capable of doing resampling, when needed (e.g when playing a 44.1 file on a card, that natively only runs at 48k). however, i seem not to be able to use those capabilites, when running jackd. no matter w

[Alsa-user] Float vs. int, was: Re: Unmolested audio

2008-06-12 Thread Florian Faber
Chris, > > On IEEE 32 bit floats the mantissa is 23 bit, so there might be > > situations where you loose the LSB. > And that was the only point - a "pro audio chain" should be able to > support "digital wire" capability. This has nothing to do with the original poster's issues, so I changed the

Re: [Alsa-user] Unmolested audio

2008-06-12 Thread Chris Smith
On Thursday 12 June 2008, Florian Faber wrote: > On IEEE 32 bit floats the mantissa is 23 bit, so there might be > situations where you loose the LSB. And that was the only point - a "pro audio chain" should be able to support "digital wire" capability. > And as long as it doesn't support the sa

Re: [Alsa-user] Unmolested audio

2008-06-12 Thread Florian Faber
On Thursday 12 June 2008 20:10:04 Chris Smith wrote: > On Thursday 12 June 2008, Florian Faber wrote: > > What makes you think converting a 16 bit unsigned integer to a IEEE > > 32 bit float and back would change the value? > Should have used a 24 bit example. I'm of the opinion that with it > the

Re: [Alsa-user] Unmolested audio

2008-06-12 Thread Roman Haefeli
On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 14:10 -0400, Chris Smith wrote: > On Thursday 12 June 2008, Florian Faber wrote: > > What makes you think converting a 16 bit unsigned integer to a IEEE > > 32 bit float and back would change the value? > > Should have used a 24 bit example. I'm of the opinion that with it th

[Alsa-user] flite on h2200 audio...

2008-06-12 Thread Udo van den Heuvel
Hello, I've been receiving some Australian help on getting flite working on the H2210 ipaq. (thanks for that!) But it's not 100% yet on the ipaq: It appears that mono audio goes to the null device. Stereo audio goes to the default device. flite generates mono audio. When I use the mono to stereo

Re: [Alsa-user] Unmolested audio

2008-06-12 Thread Chris Smith
On Thursday 12 June 2008, Florian Faber wrote: > What makes you think converting a 16 bit unsigned integer to a IEEE > 32 bit float and back would change the value? Should have used a 24 bit example. I'm of the opinion that with it the process is not always a bit perfect translation. But I'm open

Re: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate

2008-06-12 Thread Chris Smith
On Thursday 12 June 2008, Grant wrote: > I'm trying to get music from mpd to my USB DAC in 100% untouched > form. My mpd.conf is as follows: > > audio_output { > type "alsa" > name "USB Monica" > device "hw:0,0" > format "44100:16:2" > } Don't know anything about mpd but you can set up an asoundrc

Re: [Alsa-user] Unmolested audio

2008-06-12 Thread Florian Faber
Chris, > A little peeve with some so called "pro" audio servers is their > inability to act as a 'digital wire', ie: what goes in comes out, > totally unchanged. As an example, there are times you may want the > same exact 16 bits you send out of app to arrive at the audio device > unmolested. Jac

Re: [Alsa-user] Unmolested audio

2008-06-12 Thread Chris Smith
On Monday 09 June 2008, Bill Unruh wrote: > That will at most give you digitization noise which at 16 bit is 96dB > below full signal. Ie, it is much less than the tape hiss from a tape > recorder for example. Not that tape hiss should be a standard we compare everything to :) A little peeve with

Re: [Alsa-user] Output latency

2008-06-12 Thread Alexander CarĂ´t
Hola Jochen and all, > yes, of course it is a trade-off between xruns and delay, but i do > that adaptively as well - start with a quite low framing, measure the > drop-out rate and reopen the soundcard in case of too much drop-outs. > this only impacts the quality of the start-up phase and

Re: [Alsa-user] Output sample rate

2008-06-12 Thread Grant
> dmix *is* an application, conceptually it is not different to esd, artsd > or pulseaudio opening the ALSA hardware directly. It just happens to be > an ALSA plugin and is a part of the signal chain that ALSA-lib sets up > by default. > > You can either: > > a) configure dmix using a custom .asou

Re: [Alsa-user] Audio hardware with "pause" support

2008-06-12 Thread Rene Herman
On 12-06-08 17:09, Rene Herman wrote: > On 12-06-08 16:14, Florian Winter wrote: > >> I have some more questions: >> Is there a way to find out which soundcards support hardware mixing (and >> have support for it implemented in their corresponding ALSA drivers)? > > Not all that easily from the

Re: [Alsa-user] Audio hardware with "pause" support

2008-06-12 Thread Rene Herman
On 12-06-08 16:14, Florian Winter wrote: > I have some more questions: > Is there a way to find out which soundcards support hardware mixing (and > have support for it implemented in their corresponding ALSA drivers)? Not all that easily from the code. The ALSA soundcard matrix at: http://www.a

Re: [Alsa-user] Audio hardware with "pause" support

2008-06-12 Thread Florian Winter
Again thanks you for your answer. You have been of great help. Using "plughw" instead of "default" seems to do the trick. I have some more questions: Is there a way to find out which soundcards support hardware mixing (and have support for it implemented in their corresponding ALSA drivers)? Is

Re: [Alsa-user] Audio hardware with "pause" support

2008-06-12 Thread Clemens Ladisch
Florian Winter wrote: > - What is the dmix plugin and what are the benefits of using it? > - Is it possible to disable the dmix plugin? > - What consequences does disabling the dmix plugin have? What essential > features of ALSA will be missing without it? The dmix plugin allows multiple applic