Re: [Alsa-user] Bitperfect Ears

2007-11-26 Thread Bill Unruh
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Mark Constable wrote: > On 2007-11-27 01:19 pm, Bill Unruh wrote: >>> A point is that these kind of "hearing tests" are almost >>> useless in absolute terms but are indeed meaningful when >>> tested and accumulated results are compared with for any >>> particular individual. T

Re: [Alsa-user] Bitperfect Ears

2007-11-26 Thread Mark Constable
On 2007-11-27 01:19 pm, Bill Unruh wrote: > > A point is that these kind of "hearing tests" are almost > > useless in absolute terms but are indeed meaningful when > > tested and accumulated results are compared with for any > > particular individual. The consistent mean is to set up > > the listen

Re: [Alsa-user] Bitperfect Ears

2007-11-26 Thread Bill Unruh
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Mark Constable wrote: > On 2007-11-27 12:22 pm, Rene Herman wrote: >> Mmm, and now that I look at it again: >> ampl = 32767.0 / pow(10, -dbfs / 20); >> is the same as: >> ampl = 32767 * pow(10, dbfs / 20); >> which looks somewhat nicer. > > How about a copyright,

Re: [Alsa-user] Bitperfect Ears

2007-11-26 Thread Bill Unruh
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007, Rene Herman wrote: > On 26-11-07 21:25, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: > >> Rene Herman wrote: > >> > On 25-11-07 04:18, Mark Constable wrote: >> > >> > > There are a few online hearing test sites around, here >> > > is one with 16/44.1 wavs. I can't hear 12kHz-0dB.wav :-(

Re: [Alsa-user] Bitperfect Ears

2007-11-26 Thread Mark Constable
On 2007-11-27 12:22 pm, Rene Herman wrote: > Mmm, and now that I look at it again: > ampl = 32767.0 / pow(10, -dbfs / 20); > is the same as: > ampl = 32767 * pow(10, dbfs / 20); > which looks somewhat nicer. How about a copyright, license, contact and version info, and a bit of a re

Re: [Alsa-user] Bitperfect Ears

2007-11-26 Thread Rene Herman
On 27-11-07 02:48, Rene Herman wrote: > Yes, well, I was feeling manly... > > But the main utility should, admittedly, mostly be the source. Tiny and > intended to be sort of instructive in the dBFS -> Amplitude step and such. Mmm, and now that I look at it again: ampl = 32767.0 / pow(

Re: [Alsa-user] Bitperfect Ears

2007-11-26 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:48:20 +0100 Rene Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 27-11-07 02:41, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > > > On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:26:48 +0100 > > Rene Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > [snip] > >> Wrote a small sine generator during this test by the way -- attached just

Re: [Alsa-user] Bitperfect Ears

2007-11-26 Thread Rene Herman
On 27-11-07 02:41, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:26:48 +0100 > Rene Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [snip] >> Wrote a small sine generator during this test by the way -- attached just in >> case anyone is interested. Writes S16_LE to stdout, so intended to be used >> as

Re: [Alsa-user] Bitperfect Ears

2007-11-26 Thread Rene Herman
On 27-11-07 02:26, Rene Herman wrote: Wrote a small sine generator during this test by the way -- attached just in case anyone is interested. Writes S16_LE to stdout, so intended to be used as: $ sine -f -d | aplay -f cd -r for setting a different rate than 44100: $ sine -f -d -r | ap

Re: [Alsa-user] Bitperfect Ears

2007-11-26 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Tue, 27 Nov 2007 02:26:48 +0100 Rene Herman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [snip] > Wrote a small sine generator during this test by the way -- attached just in > case anyone is interested. Writes S16_LE to stdout, so intended to be used as: > > $ sine -f -d | aplay -f cd > > -r for setting a

Re: [Alsa-user] Bitperfect Ears

2007-11-26 Thread Rene Herman
On 26-11-07 21:25, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: Rene Herman wrote: On 25-11-07 04:18, Mark Constable wrote: There are a few online hearing test sites around, here is one with 16/44.1 wavs. I can't hear 12kHz-0dB.wav :-( http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/music/dB/loudness.html Word of warning --

Re: [Alsa-user] "best" card for "bitperfect" SPDIF I/O?with?external clock sync ?

2007-11-26 Thread Bill Unruh
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007, Sergei Steshenko wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:52:17 -0800 (PST) Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2007, Sergei Steshenko wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:19:24 +0100 Benoit Rouits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Le dimanche 25 novembre 2007 à 18:26 +0300, V

Re: [Alsa-user] Bitperfect Ears

2007-11-26 Thread Bill Unruh
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: > Rene Herman wrote: >> On 25-11-07 04:18, Mark Constable wrote: >> >>> There are a few online hearing test sites around, here >>> is one with 16/44.1 wavs. I can't hear 12kHz-0dB.wav :-( >>> >>> http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/music/dB/loudness.html

Re: [Alsa-user] Bitperfect Ears

2007-11-26 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 20:25:33 + James Courtier-Dutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Rene Herman wrote: > > On 25-11-07 04:18, Mark Constable wrote: > > > >> There are a few online hearing test sites around, here > >> is one with 16/44.1 wavs. I can't hear 12kHz-0dB.wav :-( > >> > >> http://www

Re: [Alsa-user] "best" card for "bitperfect" SPDIF I/O?with?external clock sync ?

2007-11-26 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 10:52:17 -0800 (PST) Bill Unruh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 26 Nov 2007, Sergei Steshenko wrote: > > > On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:19:24 +0100 > > Benoit Rouits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > >> Le dimanche 25 novembre 2007 à 18:26 +0300, Vladimir Mosgalin a écrit : > >>

Re: [Alsa-user] Bitperfect Ears

2007-11-26 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
Rene Herman wrote: > On 25-11-07 04:18, Mark Constable wrote: > >> There are a few online hearing test sites around, here >> is one with 16/44.1 wavs. I can't hear 12kHz-0dB.wav :-( >> >> http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/music/dB/loudness.html > > Word of warning -- the outcome here will significantl

Re: [Alsa-user] "best" card for "bitperfect" SPDIF I/O?with?external clock sync ?

2007-11-26 Thread Bill Unruh
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007, Sergei Steshenko wrote: On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:19:24 +0100 Benoit Rouits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Le dimanche 25 novembre 2007 à 18:26 +0300, Vladimir Mosgalin a écrit : That's the main reason why I asked - I heard that people can hear 22khz or about that when they are

Re: [Alsa-user] snd-hda-intel : Unknown model for ALC882

2007-11-26 Thread Bonnel Christophe
I have tried all model listed in /usr/src/KERNEL_VERSION/Document/sound/alsa with no luck. I have tried alsa all alsa model with position_fix=1 but i still have no sound. Can anyone help me ? Dmitri Pogosyan a écrit : > That's no problem by itself. > > >> Hi all, >> >> I have an Asus A7T lap

Re: [Alsa-user] "best" card for "bitperfect" SPDIF I/O?with?external clock sync ?

2007-11-26 Thread Sergei Steshenko
On Mon, 26 Nov 2007 18:19:24 +0100 Benoit Rouits <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Le dimanche 25 novembre 2007 à 18:26 +0300, Vladimir Mosgalin a écrit : > > That's the main reason why I asked - I heard that people can hear > > 22khz or about that when they are young, than listening gets worse and > >

Re: [Alsa-user] "best" card for "bitperfect" SPDIF I/O?with?external clock sync ?

2007-11-26 Thread Benoit Rouits
Le dimanche 25 novembre 2007 à 18:26 +0300, Vladimir Mosgalin a écrit : > That's the main reason why I asked - I heard that people can hear > 22khz or about that when they are young, than listening gets worse and > they don't hear very high frequencies anymore - and since I consider > myself still

Re: [Alsa-user] Problems with INTEL audio card

2007-11-26 Thread Nigel Henry
On Sunday 25 November 2007 19:08, Wolfgang P. Rauchholz wrote: Hi Wolfgang. Please don't use HTML when replying to the list. Looking at the output from when you ran the script, some stuff seems to be missing. For example alsa-lib is not installed, and the only snd module loaded is the snd-intel

[Alsa-user] Regarding Bug ID 0002475 (Power off shows "acpi_power_off called" and hangs)

2007-11-26 Thread Khelben Blackstaff
Hello. I post to ask if there is any progress on this bug ? I saw the bug some time ago but it still exists on 2.6.24-rc2 and it is annoying to run "rmmod snd-hda-intel" before i need to power off the machine. My motherboard is not the same as the original poster's. Mine is the Asus P5AD2 Premium

Re: [Alsa-user] Bitperfect Ears

2007-11-26 Thread Rene Herman
On 26-11-07 03:35, Bill Unruh wrote: >> [ the loudness war ] >> Clipping nor analogue distortion by the way is the problem. As said, >> it's the range compression to _avoid_ the clipping that they have to >> do when they master at these insane averages -- when you then later >> play them back