[Alpine-info] ical display confuses me about timezones.

2022-09-16 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier
I rarely deal with ical but I'm glad Alpine knows how to display ical entries. I've noticed times reported as "Eastern Standard Time" even if they are actually in "Easter Daylight Savings Time". In this message I explore why. Here's an example: Start Date: Wed 2022-10-12 09:30 AM (Eastern

Re: [Alpine-info] ical display confuses me about timezones.

2022-09-16 Thread Bret Busby
On 17/9/22 00:23, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote: I rarely deal with ical but I'm glad Alpine knows how to display ical entries. I've noticed times reported as "Eastern Standard Time" even if they are actually in "Easter Daylight Savings Time". In this message I explore why. Here's an example: S

Re: [Alpine-info] ical display confuses me about timezones.

2022-09-16 Thread D. Hugh Redelmeier
| From: Bret Busby | I think it far simpler to avoid the use of timezone names, and instead, use | the UTC (/GMT) increment/decrement, as shown in viewing applicable times in | the full header display. I think that it might be simpler to stop Earth spinning :-) 1. people are accustomed to quant

Re: [Alpine-info] ical display confuses me about timezones.

2022-09-16 Thread Bret Busby
On 17/9/22 03:23, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote: | From: Bret Busby | I think it far simpler to avoid the use of timezone names, and instead, use | the UTC (/GMT) increment/decrement, as shown in viewing applicable times in | the full header display. I think that it might be simpler to stop Earth s

Re: [Alpine-info] ical display confuses me about timezones.

2022-09-16 Thread Bret Busby
On 17/9/22 03:23, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote: | From: Bret Busby | I think it far simpler to avoid the use of timezone names, and instead, use | the UTC (/GMT) increment/decrement, as shown in viewing applicable times in | the full header display. I think that it might be simpler to stop Earth s

Re: [Alpine-info] ical display confuses me about timezones.

2022-09-16 Thread Carlos E. R.
On 2022-09-16 22:26, Bret Busby wrote: So, I see no justifiable reason, for times conveyed via any electronic media, to not be mandatorily expressed in terms of UTC. That will not happen. The only solution is to have our software deal with the existing situation. It is the only thing we can

Re: [Alpine-info] ical display confuses me about timezones.

2022-09-16 Thread Eduardo Chappa
On Fri, 16 Sep 2022, D. Hugh Redelmeier wrote: I've noticed times reported as "Eastern Standard Time" even if they are actually in "Easter Daylight Savings Time". In this message I explore why. Here's an example: Start Date: Wed 2022-10-12 09:30 AM (Eastern Standard Time) End Date: Wed 202