Re: [gentoo-dev] A new bugzilla keyword for bug investigation

2025-01-10 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jan 10, 2025 at 3:17 AM Agostino Sarubbo wrote: > > For that reason I would like to propose a new bugzilla KEYWORD, like: > > > - NEEDS-TRIAGE > > or > > - NEEDS-INVESTIGATION Makes a lot of sense, though I'm not sure if it could cause confusion for bug wrangling/etc. I don't think non-p

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate hard drives with dual actuators.

2024-11-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 6:04 PM Jack wrote: > > What about DEC-Tape? :-) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DECtape) (I > may even have a few left in a closet somewhere, if only I could find > someone to read them.) > LTO is pretty much the only sensible choice these days as I understand it. I've

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate hard drives with dual actuators.

2024-11-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Nov 17, 2024 at 6:22 AM Michael wrote: > > On Saturday 16 November 2024 20:13:30 GMT Rich Freeman wrote: > > > > The idea of a host-managed drive is to avoid the random writes in the > > first place, and the need to do the random reads. For this to work > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate hard drives with dual actuators.

2024-11-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 2:47 PM Michael wrote: > > As I understand it from reading various articles, the constraint of having to > write sequentially a whole band when a random block changes within a band > works the same on both HM-SMR and the more common DM-SMR. Correct. > What differs with >

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate hard drives with dual actuators.

2024-11-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Nov 16, 2024 at 6:02 AM Michael wrote: > > I assume (simplistically) with DM-SMRs the > discard-garbage collection is managed wholly by the onboard drive controller, > while with HM-SMRs the OS will signal the drive to start trimming when the > workload is low in order to distribute the ti

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate hard drives with dual actuators.

2024-11-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Nov 15, 2024 at 10:35 AM Michael wrote: > > Host managed SMRs (HM-SMR) require the OS and FS to be aware of the need for > sequential writes and manage submitted data sympathetically to this limitation > of the SMR drive, by queuing up random writes in batches and submitting these > as a s

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate hard drives with dual actuators.

2024-11-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 6:10 PM Dale wrote: > > The biggest downside to the large drives available now, even if SMART > tells you a drive is failing, you likely won't have time to copy the > data over to a new drive before it fails. On a 18TB drive, using > pvmove, it can take a long time to move

Re: [gentoo-user] Seagate hard drives with dual actuators.

2024-11-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Nov 14, 2024 at 3:33 PM Dale wrote: > > > I've had a Seagate, a Maxtor from way back and a Western Digital go bad. > This is one reason I don't knock any drive maker. Any of them can produce a > bad drive. ++ All the consumer drive manufacturers are in a super-price-conscious market.

Re: [gentoo-user] backup horror story (happy ending)

2024-11-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Nov 9, 2024 at 5:30 AM ralfconn wrote: > > But I have a backup, no problem... till I realize the cron job had > already run so it had overwritten the old files with the new, corrupt > versions. > I highly recommend having multiple backups to avoid this sort of problem. If you aren't wedd

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jun 16, 2024 at 12:55 AM Dale wrote: > > Besides, for the wattage > the CPU uses, the cooler I have is waay overkill. I think my cooler > is rated well above 200 watts. The CPU is around 100 watts, 105 I think > or maybe 95. So, I am just picking someplace a little random to reply t

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jun 9, 2024 at 6:13 PM Dale wrote: > > I think the G model has graphics, but gives up a little speed. Or as I > put it above, a wiiile bit. LOL > I'll be honest - you should probably think about how important multi monitors are as a priority - is this a desktop or a server? Also, i

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

2024-06-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 3:33 PM Wols Lists wrote: > > On 05/06/2024 20:15, Meowie Gamer wrote: > > I must've taken too long to join the mailing list because I missed the > > first part of whatever's happening here. How did this turn from python 3.12 > > to a conversation about USE? > > > > Becaus

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: python 3.12 update

2024-06-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 6:41 AM Dr Rainer Woitok wrote: > > And no, I don't buy the point of view that it's the responsibility of > the developers when my personal set of USE flags suddenly causes con- > flicts. > Agree, but keep in mind that having personal sets of USE flags is basically a

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

2024-06-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:41 PM Marco Minutoli wrote: > > What I believe is in the realm of reasonable is to ask to be notified when > important (as in popular) packages that are currently missing support get > updated with a stable version supporting python 3.12 so that we can take > action on

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

2024-06-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jun 5, 2024 at 4:27 AM hitachi303 wrote: > > the news item lists in the save upgrade section those lines: > */* PYTHON_TARGETS: -* python3_11 python3_12 > */* PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET: -* python3_11 > > This is mixing python 3.11 and 3.12 on the same system. This should be > working

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:34 PM Dale wrote: > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/116051832382 > > How many SATA drives that allow? It says 8 ports. I think each port is > 4 drives. 8 x 4 = 32. Am I right? It has two SAS ports, which support 8 SATA drives. Marketing... I can't vouch for compatibility

Re: [gentoo-user] python 3.12 update

2024-06-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 11:40 AM Joost Roeleveld wrote: > > Those steps do not just work. > The news item actually specifically states that portage will "just do > the update" if you have not set any python_targets stuff. > I have those not set, but it fails on ALL my systems. > > There are also st

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 8:03 AM Dale wrote: > > I wish I could get one that comes with cables > that go from the card to SATA drives as a set. That way I know that > part is right. I'm pretty sure there are only two standards - one for external, and one for internal. Maybe there are different co

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 7:56 AM Dale wrote: > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:44 AM Dale wrote: > > > >> The little SATA controllers I currently use tend to only need PCIe x1. > >> That is slower but at least it works. > > The LSI card

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 6:19 AM Dale wrote: > > You ever seen one of these? > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/274651287952 > > Is that taking one of those fast USB ports and converting it to a PCIe > x1 slot? Am I seeing that right? > No, it is taking a PCIe 1x slot, using a USB cable, and converting

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jun 4, 2024 at 2:44 AM Dale wrote: > > I did some more digging. It seems that all the LSI SAS cards I found > need a PCIe x8 slot. The only slot available is the one intended for > video. The board you linked has 2 4x slots that are physically 16x, so the card should work fine in those,

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 11:17 AM Dale wrote: > > When you say HBA. Is this what you mean? > > https://www.ebay.com/itm/125486868824 > Yes. Typically they have mini-SAS interfaces, and you can get a breakout cable that will attach one of those to 4x SATA ports. Some things to keep in mind when s

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 7:06 AM Dale wrote: > > I still wish it had more PCIe slots. I'm considering switching to a SAS > card and then with cables change that to SATA. I think I can get one > card and have most if not all of the drives the Fractal case will hold > hooked to it. > ... > Honestly,

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Jun 3, 2024 at 5:12 AM Dale wrote: > > Graphics Capabilities > > Graphics Model AMD Radeon™ Graphics > Graphics Core Count 2 > Graphics Frequency 2200 MHz > > That said, I have a little 4 port graphics card I'd like to use anyway. The CPU you picked indeed has integrated graphics. I did

Re: [gentoo-user] Mobo, CPU, memory and a m.2 thingy. This work together?

2024-06-02 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Jun 2, 2024 at 9:27 AM Dale wrote: > > I thought of something on the m.2 thing. I plan to put my OS on it. I > usually use tmpfs and compile in memory anyway but do have some set to > use spinning rust. Once I get 128GB installed, I should be able to do > that with all packages anyway bu

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: PCIe version 2, 3 etc and how to know which a card is.

2024-05-21 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, May 21, 2024 at 6:38 AM Dale wrote: > > So, I created a new link to slot 4. The network came up. So, > basically, it changed names as you suggested. I thought the purpose of > the enp* names was that they are consistent. Adding or removing cards > wouldn't change the names of cards, lik

Re: [gentoo-user] Encrypted drives, password generation and management howto, guide.

2024-05-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, May 14, 2024 at 7:28 AM Dale wrote: > > First, I needed to generate a password. Honestly, I'd stop right there, and think about WHY you're encrypting your disks, and WHY you need a password to decrypt them. There are many use cases and threat models to consider. I have a whole bunch of

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive and PWDIS or pin 3 power disable/reset.

2024-05-09 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, May 9, 2024 at 5:12 PM Dale wrote: > > I'm looking at buying another drive. I'm trying to avoid buying one > with the PWDIS pin. I'm looking at the specs to see if it says anything > about the feature, there or not there. I'm not seeing anything. This > is what I'm looking at. > > http

Re: [gentoo-user] Hard drive and PWDIS or pin 3 power disable/reset.

2024-05-07 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, May 7, 2024 at 6:04 AM Michael wrote: > > On Tuesday, 7 May 2024 08:50:26 BST Dale wrote: > > > > I'm aware of what it is and the cable part. I was curious what it looks > > like to BIOS and the OS when one is connected and that pin has the drive > > disabled. From what I've read in some

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 9:33 AM Dale wrote: > > Rich Freeman wrote: > > > All AM5 CPUs have GPUs, but in general motherboards with video outputs > > do not require the CPU to have a GPU built in. The ports just don't > > do anything if this is lacking, an

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Apr 17, 2024 at 6:33 AM Dale wrote: > > On the AM5 link, I found a mobo that I kinda like. I still wish it had > more PCIe slots tho. AM5 has 28 PCIe lanes. Anything above that comes from a switch on the motherboard. 0.1% of the population cares about having anything on their motherboa

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 8:20 AM Dale wrote: > > Right now, I have a three drive setup in a removable cage for the NAS > box. If you only need three drives I'm sure you can find cheap used hardware that will handle that. Odds are it will use way less power and perform better than whatever you're

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 8:11 AM Dale wrote: > > My biggest thing right now, finding a mobo with plenty of PCIe slots. > They put all this new stuff, wifi and such, but remove things I do need, > PCIe slots. PCIe and memory capacity seem to have become the way the server/workstation and consumer m

Re: [gentoo-user] NAS box and switching from Phenom II X6 1090T to FX-6300

2024-04-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Apr 13, 2024 at 3:58 AM Dale wrote: > > Given the FX-6300 has a higher clocks speed, 3.8GHz versus 3.2GHz for > the Phenom, I'd think the FX would be a upgrade, quite a good one at > that. More L2 cache too. Both are 6 cores according to what I found. > Anyone know something I don't that

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 5:36 PM Wol wrote: > > On 31/03/2024 20:38, Håkon Alstadheim wrote: > > For commercial entities, the government could just contact the company > > and apply pressure, no need to sneak the backdoor in. Cf. RSA . > > Serving a "secret compliance" notice on a third party is al

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 10:59 AM Michael wrote: > > On Sunday, 31 March 2024 13:33:20 BST Rich Freeman wrote: > > (moving this to gentoo-user as this is really getting off-topic for -dev) > > Thanks for bringing this to our attention Rich. > > Is downgrading to app-arch/xz

[gentoo-user] Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-31 Thread Rich Freeman
(moving this to gentoo-user as this is really getting off-topic for -dev) On Sun, Mar 31, 2024 at 7:32 AM stefan1 wrote: > > Had I seen someone say that a bad actor would spend years gaining the > trust of FOSS > project maintainers in order to gain commit access and introduce such > sophisti

Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 10:57 AM Eddie Chapman wrote: > > No, this is the the bad actor *themselves* being a > principal author of the software, working stealthily and in very > sophisticated ways for years, to manoeuvrer themselves and their software > into a position of trust in the ecosystem wh

Re: [gentoo-dev] Current unavoidable use of xz utils in Gentoo

2024-03-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Mar 30, 2024 at 3:06 AM Dale wrote: > > when I got to the part about it not likely to affect Gentoo, my level of > concern dropped significantly. If this is still true, there's no need to be > concerned. "not likely" is the best way to characterize this. The exploit has not been fully

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: banning "AI"-backed (LLM/GPT/whatever) contributions to Gentoo

2024-02-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Feb 28, 2024 at 1:50 PM Arthur Zamarin wrote: > > I know that GitHub Copilot can be limited to licenses, and even to just > the current repository. Even though, I'm not sure that the copyright can > be attributed to "me" and not the "AI" - so still gray area. So, AI copyright is a bit of

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: banning "AI"-backed (LLM/GPT/whatever) contributions to Gentoo

2024-02-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 27, 2024 at 9:45 AM Michał Górny wrote: > > Given the recent spread of the "AI" bubble, I think we really need to > look into formally addressing the related concerns. > 1. Copyright concerns. I do think it makes sense to consider some of this. However, I feel like the proposal is r

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-02-05 Thread Rich Freeman
First, thanks for the Ars link in the other email. I'll give that a read. On Mon, Feb 5, 2024 at 7:55 AM J. Roeleveld wrote: > > On Wednesday, January 31, 2024 6:56:47 PM CET Rich Freeman wrote: > > The main barrier is that its license isn't GPL-compatible. It is > &g

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-02-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Feb 2, 2024 at 6:39 PM Grant Edwards wrote: > > On 2024-01-31, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > In any case, these COW filesystems, much like git, store data in a > > way that makes it very efficient to diff two snapshots and back up > > only the data that has cha

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-01-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 1:42 PM Wols Lists wrote: > > On 31/01/2024 17:56, Rich Freeman wrote: > > I don't think there are > > any RAID implementations that do full write journaling to protect > > against the write hole problem, but those would obviously underperf

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-01-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 12:40 PM Thelma wrote: > > If zfs file system is superior to ext4 and it seems to it is. > Why hasn't it been adopted more widely in Linux? > The main barrier is that its license isn't GPL-compatible. It is FOSS, but the license was basically designed to keep it from bein

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-01-31 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jan 31, 2024 at 6:45 AM John Covici wrote: > > I know you said you wanted to stay with ext4, but going to zfs reduced > my backup time on my entire system from several hours to just a few > minutes because taking a snapshot is so quick and copying to another > pool is also very quick. > H

Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-01-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 3:08 PM Wol wrote: > > On 30/01/2024 19:19, Rich Freeman wrote: > > I'd echo the other advice. It really depends on your goals. > > If you just want a simple backup, I'd use something like rsync onto lvm > or btrfs or something. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Suggestions for backup scheme?

2024-01-30 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Jan 30, 2024 at 1:15 PM Grant Edwards wrote: > > Are there other backup solutions that people would like to suggest I > look at to replace rsnapshot? I was happy enough with rsnapshot (when > it was running), but perhaps there's something else I should consider? > I'd echo the other advi

[ceph-users] Re: Odd auto-scaler warnings about too few/many PGs

2024-01-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jan 26, 2024 at 3:35 AM Torkil Svensgaard wrote: > > The most weird one: > > Pool rbd_ec_data stores 683TB in 4096 pgs -> warn should be 1024 > Pool rbd_internal stores 86TB in 1024 pgs-> warn should be 2048 > > That makes no sense to me based on the amount of data stored. Is this a > bug

[ceph-users] Re: Ceph newbee questions

2023-12-22 Thread Rich Freeman
Disclaimer: I'm fairly new to Ceph, but I've read a bunch of threads on the min_size=1 issue as that was perplexing me when I started, as one replica is generally considered fine in many other applications. However, there really are some unique concerns to Ceph beyond just the number of disks you c

[ceph-users] Re: EC Profiles & DR

2023-12-06 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Dec 6, 2023 at 9:25 AM Patrick Begou wrote: > > My understood was that k and m were for EC chunks not hosts. 🙁 Of > course if k and m are hosts the best choice would be k=2 and m=2. A few others have already replied - as they said if the failure domain is set to host then it will put only

[ceph-users] Re: EC Profiles & DR

2023-12-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 6:35 AM Patrick Begou wrote: > > Ok, so I've misunderstood the meaning of failure domain. If there is no > way to request using 2 osd/node and node as failure domain, with 5 nodes > k=3+m=1 is not secure enough and I will have to use k=2+m=2, so like a > raid1 setup. A litt

[ceph-users] Re: EC Profiles & DR

2023-12-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 5:16 AM Patrick Begou wrote: > > On my side, I'm working on building my first (small) Ceph cluster using > E.C. and I was thinking about 5 nodes and k=4 m=2. With a failure domain > on host and several osd by nodes, in my mind this setup may run degraded > with 3 nodes using

[ceph-users] Re: Best Practice for OSD Balancing

2023-11-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 6:25 PM Anthony D'Atri wrote: > Looks like one 100GB SSD OSD per host? This is AIUI the screaming minimum > size for an OSD. With WAL, DB, cluster maps, and other overhead there > doesn’t end up being much space left for payload data. On larger OSDs the > overhead is m

[ceph-users] Re: Best Practice for OSD Balancing

2023-11-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Nov 28, 2023 at 3:52 PM Anthony D'Atri wrote: > > Very small and/or non-uniform clusters can be corner cases for many things, > especially if they don’t have enough PGs. What is your failure domain — host > or OSD? Failure domain is host, and PG number should be fairly reasonable. > >

[ceph-users] Best Practice for OSD Balancing

2023-11-28 Thread Rich Freeman
I'm fairly new to Ceph and running Rook on a fairly small cluster (half a dozen nodes, about 15 OSDs). I notice that OSD space use can vary quite a bit - upwards of 10-20%. In the documentation I see multiple ways of managing this, but no guidance on what the "correct" or best way to go about thi

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OFF TOPIC Need Ubuntu network help

2023-10-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Oct 17, 2023 at 11:15 PM Grant Edwards wrote: > > For example, if one > of the links is down, Ubuntu is really fond of waiting a couple > mintues for it to come up before it finishes booting. [If it doesn't > wait for all the network interfaces, how is it going to do all that > cloudy crap

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo packages contain binary images?

2023-09-28 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 12:24 PM n952162 wrote: > > $ tar -xjvf /var/cache/binpkgs/dev-util/cmake-3.22.2.tbz2 ./usr/bin/cmake > It looks to me that it's in the tarball received from gentoo. Unless you tell portage to fetch binpkgs it won't fetch one from Gentoo. Until very recently Gentoo didn'

Re: [gentoo-user] Network throughput from main Gentoo rig to NAS box.

2023-09-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Sep 23, 2023 at 8:04 AM Dale wrote: > > I'm expecting more of a consistent throughput instead of all the > idle time. The final throughput is only around 29.32MB/s according to > info from rsync. If it was not stopping all the time and passing data > through all the time, I think that wo

Re: [gentoo-user] Password questions, looking for opinions. cryptsetup question too.

2023-09-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Sep 23, 2023 at 11:05 AM Dale wrote: > > I'm not to clear on this but it looks like it is using 'aes-xts-plain64' > to me. If so, is that good enough? Is there better? You are using the defaults, which is what you should be using, as they're very secure. As far as I'm aware there is no

Re: [gentoo-user] Controlling emerges

2023-09-22 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 21, 2023 at 9:13 PM Dale wrote: > > Sometimes I wish they would announce when they add features. Rich, you > frequent this list. If you hear of something new, could you post it? Sure, if a relevant topic comes up and I'm aware of it. However, I doubt this setting is going to do muc

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Password questions, looking for opinions. cryptsetup question too.

2023-09-20 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Sep 20, 2023 at 4:22 PM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 11:49:24PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > > > Anyway, when I do that and use the new passwords successfully, I make a > > backup copy and on my rig, I can encrypt it with a right click. I then > > shred the original. > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 1:05 PM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 11:01:48AM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: > > No, the chipset downlink is always four lanes wide. The diagram you linked has 8, but I can't vouch for its accuracy. Haven't looked into it for

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 10:35 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 09:17:45AM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: > > > The higher-end motherboards have switches, and not all > > the lanes may be the highest supported generation, but I don't think > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 8:26 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > BTW: it’s APU, without the G. Because it is an Accellerated Processing Unit > (i.e. a processor), not a GPU. No real "reason" for it besides branding/naming/etc. They could have called it a MPU for Mixed Processing Unit if they wanted

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 5:43 AM Dale wrote: > > I been on Newegg using their rig builder feature. Just to get rough > ideas, I picked a AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core 3.7 GHz Socket AM4. Yea, I > did a copy and paste. lol It's a bit pricey but compared to my current > rig, I think it will run circl

Re: [gentoo-user] Controlling emerges

2023-09-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 5:48 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 10:14:42 BST William Kenworthy wrote: > > That is where you set per package compiler parameters by overriding > > make.conf settings. > > And which make.conf setting might achieve what I want? Careful reading o

Re: [gentoo-user] Password questions, looking for opinions. cryptsetup question too.

2023-09-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 4:26 AM Michael wrote: > > On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 06:36:13 BST Dale wrote: > > Howdy, > > > A strong > password, like a strong door lock, buys you time. Hence the general > recommendation to change your passwords frequently. While that can help on websites, it is o

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 9:02 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 07:16:17AM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: > > > On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 6:13 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > > > > > Am Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 12:17:20AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > &g

Re: [gentoo-user] Controlling emerges

2023-09-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 12:13 PM Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Whether you just let emerge do it's thing or try get it to do big packages on > their own, everything is still going to use the same number of cpu cycles > overall and you will save nothing. That is true of CPU, but not RAM. The problem

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 6:13 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 12:17:20AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > > […] > > The downside, only micro ATX and > > mini ITX mobo. This is a serious down vote here. > > Why is that bad? µATX comes with up to four PCIe slots. Even for ten drives, >

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 1:39 PM Eddie Chapman wrote: > > If you don't like it, then just go and roll your own. Of course > I know I (and anyone else) can do that. So then what's the point of > discussing anything then? This is a fair question, but I think you're missing how most FOSS work gets do

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Sep 14, 2023 at 12:50 PM Eddie Chapman wrote: > > if people want to run the damn thing just let them be! If you keep using eudev, and you don't tell anybody about it, then they won't even know. Nobody is keeping anybody from using eudev. They're just not actively doing work to keep it w

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 12, 2023 at 9:36 AM Eddie Chapman wrote: > in Gentoo. Have any of these 4 maintainers publicly said (anywhere) that > they are not interested in being maintainers anymore (which is fine if > that is the case)? We're not talking here about a lone maintainer of some > peripheral package

Re: [gentoo-dev] last rites: sys-fs/eudev

2023-09-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Sep 11, 2023 at 10:34 PM orbea wrote: > > Regardless the disappointment is a valid concern when Gentoo is willing > to pull the rug up from under users feet under erroneous claims of the > project being dead. > As a complete outsider, I think this conversation is focusing on the wrong iss

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: attic

2023-09-04 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Sep 4, 2023 at 4:38 AM William Kenworthy wrote: > > On 4/9/23 16:04, Nuno Silva wrote: > > > > (But note that Rich was suggesting using the *search* feature of the > > gitweb interface, which, in this case, also finds the same topmost > > commit if I search for "reedsolomon".) > > > tkx, m

Re: [gentoo-user] attic

2023-09-03 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Sep 3, 2023 at 4:44 AM Michael wrote: > > On Sunday, 3 September 2023 07:49:36 BST William Kenworthy wrote: > > Hi , I used to be able to get old ebuilds from "the attic" but I cant > > find it on google - is it still around? > > Perhaps have a look here at the archives? > > https://gitweb

Re: [gentoo-user] Migrate install from Intel 6th gen to AMD Zen 4

2023-08-29 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Aug 29, 2023 at 6:22 AM Victor Ivanov wrote: > > My existing make.conf has: > > COMMON_FLAGS="-march=skylake -O2 -pipe" > CPU_FLAGS_X86="aes avx avx2 f16c fma3 mmx mmxext pclmul popcnt sse > sse2 sse3 sse4_1 sse4_2 ssse3" > > 1) Replace "-march=skylake" with "x86_64[-v1|v2|v3|v4]" or just

Re: [gentoo-dev] adding sec-keys/openpgp-keys-gentoo-release to @system

2023-08-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Aug 12, 2023 at 10:34 AM Andreas K. Huettel wrote: > > I'd like to add > > sec-keys/openpgp-keys-gentoo-release > > to @system - any objections? > > This is more of a formal request since portage already depends on it anyway, > and > the package is present in every stage3. However, it i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Massive Github PR Queue

2023-08-11 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Aug 11, 2023 at 12:54 PM Sam James wrote: > juippis' whole email nails the issue, but I'd just like to add that > there's kind of a baseline at ~400/~450 or so where everything below > that is PRs for new packages or long-obsolete stuff nobody closed yet, > or where we're waiting on the su

Re: [gentoo-user] Encrypted swap with keyfile

2023-07-08 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Jul 8, 2023 at 4:29 AM efeizbudak wrote: > > I use genkernel to make my initramfs and I am passing the crypt_swap, > crypt_swap_keydev and crypt_swap_key options but I'm guessing that since > /dev/sda2 comes before /dev/sda3, the initramfs tries to decrypt that one > first. How can I go

Re: [gentoo-dev] EGO_SUM (was: [gentoo-project] Gentoo Council Election 202306 ... Nominations Open in Just Over 24 Hours.)

2023-07-05 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Jul 5, 2023 at 2:40 PM Gerion Entrup wrote: > > Am Mittwoch, 5. Juli 2023, 01:09:30 CEST schrieb Oskari Pirhonen: > > On Tue, Jul 04, 2023 at 21:56:26 +, Robin H. Johnson wrote: > > > > > > Developing it requires PMS work in addition to package manager > > > development, because it int

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd query ...

2023-05-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 6:18 AM Jacques Montier wrote: > > Well, well, Rich, you are completely right, you've found the key ! 👍 > I have that line in make.conf > INSTALL_MASK="/lib/systemd/system /usr/lib/systemd/system" > I now see where it comes from. > On the same machine, I have another OpenRC

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd query ...

2023-05-17 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, May 17, 2023 at 4:43 AM Jacques Montier wrote: > > As I didn't mask anything, I don't understand why this file was not installed > as it was declared in the apache ebuild... You don't have anything set in INSTALL_MASK? Check "emerge --info www-servers/apache" You might want to check th

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd query ...

2023-05-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, May 16, 2023 at 3:32 PM Jacques Montier wrote: > > After install, apache2.service not found... Have you done something to mask service file installs/etc? The unit file is in the gentoo repo: www-servers/apache/files/apache2.4-hardened.service -- Rich

Re: [gentoo-user] config file '/etc/mtab' needs updating

2023-04-11 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 9:47 AM Matt Connell wrote: > > I usually try not to edit any files that are 'managed' by packages, but > sometimes it is unavoidable (eg. no thing.conf.d directory support), so > I wind up having to either accept the change and then re-edit it, or > zap the change and allo

Re: [gentoo-user] config file '/etc/mtab' needs updating

2023-04-11 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Apr 11, 2023 at 9:14 AM Matt Connell wrote: > > On Mon, 2023-04-10 at 23:44 -0600, the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > > After update I get: > > * IMPORTANT: config file '/etc/mtab' needs updating. > > > > What is this, don't remember seeing it before. > > > > cfg-update -u > > doesn't give me

Re: [gentoo-user] PCIe x1 or PCIe x4 SATA controller card

2023-03-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 5:30 AM Wols Lists wrote: > > On 27/03/2023 01:18, Dale wrote: > > Thanks for any light you can shed on this. Googling just leads to a ton > > of confusion. What's true 6 months ago is wrong today. :/ It's hard > > to tell what still applies. > > Well, back in the days

Re: [gentoo-user] PCIe x1 or PCIe x4 SATA controller card

2023-03-27 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Mar 27, 2023 at 6:37 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Bogomips seems to be vry simple, because it takes the current frequency > into account. So the number will be low when your PC idles and very high > when you compile something. The “bogo” stands for bogus for a reason. > Just to ad

Re: [gentoo-user]Computer build, was PCIe x1 or PCIe x4 SATA controller card

2023-03-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 6:01 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Gamer boards tend to skimp on ports, because those people generally care > mostly for their GPU (plus design and RGB). Well, that, and the CPU only has so many PCIe lanes and adding ports beyond that requires a switch. Also, if they h

Re: [gentoo-user] PCIe x1 or PCIe x4 SATA controller card

2023-03-13 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 8:24 AM Dale wrote: > > According to my google searches, PCIe x4 is faster > than PCIe x1. It's why some cards are PCIe x8 or x16. I think video > cards are usually x16. My question is, given the PCIe x4 card costs > more, is it that much faster than a PCIe x1? It coul

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my 5.15.93 kernel keeps rebooting

2023-02-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 9:08 AM John Covici wrote: > > hmmm, but what should I use for the source ip, I only assign those > when I bring the interface up when I start the interface -- I have > something like this: > [Unit] > Description=Network Connectivity for %i > ... > So, before I run this, I

Re: [gentoo-user] Jobs and load-average

2023-02-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 8:39 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > I've just looked at 'man make', from which it's clear that -j = --jobs, and > that both those and --load-average are passed to /usr/bin/make, presumably > untouched unless portage itself has identically named variables. So I wonder > how fe

Re: [gentoo-user] Jobs and load-average

2023-02-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 5:32 AM Andreas Fink wrote: > > On Thu, 16 Feb 2023 09:53:30 + > Peter Humphrey wrote: > > > Yes, I was aware of that, but why didn't --load-average=32 take precedence? > This only means that emerge would not schedule additional package job > (where a package job means

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: my 5.15.93 kernel keeps rebooting

2023-02-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Feb 16, 2023 at 6:50 AM John Covici wrote: > > The sending computer has two nics, eno1 for the internal network and > eno2 is on the internet. So, my netconsole stanza said > netconsole=@192.168.0.1/eno1,@192.168.0.2 Is CONFIG_NETCONSOLE enabled for your kernel? I'm not sure if the ker

Re: [gentoo-user] Is it OK to get rid of app-alternatives/* ?

2023-02-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 9:10 AM Michael Orlitzky wrote: > > On 2023-02-15 08:11:46, Neil Bothwick wrote: > > > > If, as you say, it will eventually replace eselect, there is no more > > bloat, just different bloat. It's still just a bunch of symlinks, but > > managed differently. > > > > Should be

Re: [gentoo-user] Jobs and load-average

2023-02-15 Thread Rich Freeman
On Wed, Feb 15, 2023 at 4:56 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > Not long ago I read that we should allow 2GB RAM for every emerge job - that > is, we should divide our RAM size by 2 to get the maximum number of > simultaneous jobs. I'm trying to get that right, but I'm not there yet. > > I have these en

Re: [gentoo-user] my 5.15.93 kernel keeps rebooting

2023-02-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 2:54 PM John Covici wrote: > > On Tue, 14 Feb 2023 14:08:34 -0500, > Rich Freeman wrote: >> > > will be displayed on the console briefly. You can also enable a > > network console, which will send the dmesg output continuously over > > U

Re: [gentoo-user] my 5.15.93 kernel keeps rebooting

2023-02-14 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 14, 2023 at 9:08 AM John Covici wrote: > > Hi. So, foolish me, I decided to go from a working 5.10.155 system to > try latest lts of 5.15 which is 5.15.93. Compile, install went well, > but the system keeps rebooting. It gets all the way and even starts > the local services and then

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA PG 0305 (manpages must always be installed) discussion

2023-01-20 Thread Rich Freeman
On Fri, Jan 20, 2023 at 9:13 AM orbea wrote: > > Protecting users from themselves can be a misfeature. Its better to > educate and then let them freely choose than to play as their nanny. > TL;DR - it makes sense to unconditionally install prebuilt manpages, but not to require pulling in dependen

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