DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution 6257 - 6269

On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:50 PM, comex wrote: > On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 5:54 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 9:29 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: >>> The highest orderly ID for distributed proposals is 6269; there are no >>> chaotic ID numbers. >>

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Noted Proposal

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:15 AM, Quazie wrote: > If they should be limited then so should points 7 and 8 which up voting power. Voting limit is already capped at 8 by R, and at 1 for democratic decisions. Raising quorum would make it fairly cheap to kill even an overwhelmingly popular democ

Re: DIS: Proto-idea - Bizzarogora

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 11:30 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: >>       c) Wielder of Un-Veto.  The Wielder of Un-Veto CAN un-veto an ordinary >>          decision in its voting period by announcement; this decreases >>          its Adoption Index by 1. > > Meaning it will generally fail even if adopted, due

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Attn: Elections Failing Quorum

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > There are currently at least two or three endorsements of Wooble in > the Tailor election. I would ask those endorsers to vote conditionally > if Wooble does not, I would encourage Wooble to vote, and I would > encourage the Wielder to rubberstam

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Attn: Elections Failing Quorum

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 1:54 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > Ah, you're right, I was conufsing this with the Assessor election, > which is regarding a vacant office and thus needs to be completed; > whereas the resolution of this election is relatively immaterial. Accountor; Assessor isn't vacant.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Yes I did change key

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Wed, 2009-05-13 at 20:48 +0200, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: >> 2009/5/13 Alex Smith : >> > On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 15:35 +0100, Alex Smith wrote (in agora-business): >> >> I flip my Key to G. >> > >> > I CoE against the latest Conductor's Report; my

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2485 assigned to OscarMeyr

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Benjamin Schultz wrote: > Would there be significant opposition to me handing down a ruling directing > the ALS to wind up its affairs and disband? Not from me.

DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 8:56 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > Manuel Lanctot wrote: >> I register. >> >> ~Manu > > I award Manu a White Ribbon. Fails, this is not the first time Manu has registered.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Legislative Dominance

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Quazie wrote: > I submit the following proposal entitled "And then there was silence", > AI=2 please, with the following body: > > Repeal rule 2126 the day after agora's birthday. Unless this is retroactive to the last birthday, that's a no-op (except, apparently,

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: a better way to phase out notes

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > I think it's good, but maybe we should only be able to create one party hat > each. Some people will have a lot of wins otherwise... Seems unlikely; it takes 25 notes to play Happy Birthday, and only 4 players have 50 or more. I don't be

DIS: Re: BUS: Forming the IBA

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 11:16 AM, comex wrote: >> }} >> I initiate a Motion to Amend the IBA, with the following amendment: >> ... >> parties. If this contract is ever not a player, any person CAN act on >> its behalf to intend to register and CAN act on its behalf to register. > > AGAINST, I don'

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2500 assigned to Rodlen

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Detail: http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2500 > > ==  CFJ 2500  == > >    A player who does not deregister in the interval becomes a >    Senator exactly 1440 (60 * 24) hour

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [AAA] Banking for non-Farmers

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Quazie wrote: > Could we restrict it to people?  Players?  Something? Players wouldn't solve IB&A's issue. On the other hand, I probably don't want to have to track what crops some random person transferred to a small teacup in orbit around the Sun. Hmm. Player

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [AAA] Banking for non-Farmers

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 2:20 PM, Roger Hicks wrote: > I thought the asset rule restricted ownership to persons? Nope. It doesn't even restrict recordkeepors to persons. I don't think any other rule uses "entity" more often.

Re: DIS: Agoran-Recognition-Proto

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Quazie wrote: > Also > > Replace >      The recordkeepor of a class of assets is the entity (if any) >      defined as such by, and bound by, its backing document.  That >      entity's report includes a list of all instances of that class >      and their owners.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Resolving the Registrar Election

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > While I'm all for a re-election, I don't think that failure to report > or perhaps notice a conditional circularity (when lack of circularity > would have made it above quorum) is a sign of malice. The fact that e retracted eir own vote for em

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2500 assigned to Rodlen

On Thu, May 14, 2009 at 10:26 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > You are correct. However, the answer to "Do we need to consider the > difference between regular and Agoran days?" is yes. The only difference is that regular days start at midnight local time, which gives at least 6 different times for the cur

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2500 assigned to Rodlen

On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > No I think the difference is that "days" as in span from an event > are 24 hours from the event.  -G. That's the difference between a span and an epoch, though, not between "days" and "Agoran days". An "Agoran day" is 24 hours, excluding lea

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > I submit the following proposal (Title="Active Players Must Do Something > Useful", II 1, AI 1.7): Cron job to be the first to burn off your rest ftw!

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Resolving the IADoP Election

On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 1:51 PM, comex wrote: > On Sun, May 17, 2009 at 1:45 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 9:15 PM, Aaron Goldfein >> wrote: >>> I resolve the Agoran decision to decide the holder of the IADoP office. >> >> CoE: this re

DIS: Re: BUS: AAA Actions

On Wed, May 13, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Benjamin Schultz wrote: > I feel generous and give Tom (who has no ranches) a 3, a 4, a 5, and an 8. I'm treating this as too ambiguous to succeed; was this intended to transfer ranches or crops?

DIS: Re: BUS: About those NoVs

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:01 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > ais523 wrote: > >> On Sat, 2009-05-02 at 15:46 +0100, Alex Smith wrote: >>>   1) For each active player not a party to this contract, ais523 >>>      publishes a Notice of Violation accusing that player of >>>      violating the Power=1 Rule 221

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: About those NoVs

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:16 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > The full text appears between {} below.  The opening (which doesn't > allow me to fill in the missing parts later) plus 1) should lead to > a trivial FALSE. > > { > If ais523, comex, coppro, and Murphy are all parties to this contract, > then Mu

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: About those NoVs

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:47 PM, comex wrote: > the difference is "accusing that player of violating"  versus > "alleging that that player violated".  I'm not sure whether the > difference is meaningful. Why do I have the feeling that if Pavitra had remained inactive, the people who are going to

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2488 assigned to Goethe

On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 1:32 PM, Benjamin Caplan wrote: > I'm not sure that I'm comfortable with the precedent that the rules can > be overridden by reality. Surely the rules are unlimited in scope, and > can create legal fictions of nonexistence (CANNOT publish) just as > easily as they can creat

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 10:02 AM, Quazie wrote: > On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> The highest Proposal ID in use is 6323; no Proposal IDs are chaotic. >> >> The pool contains the following proposals, and no other proposals: > >> I intend

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: end of NoVs

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 3:39 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > 2009/5/19 Geoffrey Spear : >> I submit the following AI-2 proposal entitled "end of NoVs": >> {{ >> Repeal Rule 2230. >> }} >> > That would cripple the criminal cases rules They're already crippled. They should be put out of their misery.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2485 assigned to OscarMeyr

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Benjamin Schultz wrote: > {The parties to the Agoran Loan Service SHALL disband the ALS within 28 > days.  The parties to the ALS SHOULD wind up the ALS's affairs and resolve > all outstanding debts under the ALS within that time.} Proposed settlement: I transfer

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [s-b] [Notary] Report (null)

On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:38 AM, Benjamin Caplan wrote: > I believe that the intent to use Agoran jurisdiction must be > unambiguous. So, saying "I pledge to ASAP transfer a 7 Crop to you" in > ##nomic would probably create an Agoran pledge (assuming B doesn't also > have a version of the AAA), a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [s-b] [Notary] Report (null)

On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > If two players agree privately to a document that includes a clause > "this is a public contract" (with the honest intent of publishing it > afterwards), do you have a private contract which later becomes > public, or no contract (until it is

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2485 judged by OscarMeyr

On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Warrigal wrote: > I consent to the termination of the Agoran Loan Service. You don't need to consent; the contract allows you to terminate it by announcement.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: [s-b] [Notary] Report (null)

On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > It's also the equivalent of a PF for at least two other nomics, both of > which are now dead. On behalf of One True Agora, I object to the Agoran Ambassador claiming we're dead. It's only a flesh wound!

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [AAA] Agriculture Report

On Tue, May 19, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > If any of the following actions are invalid, I perform none of them: [...] > I harvest 1030 (recently-mutated rule, using X crops as necessary), with > a 2 (or an X, with 2 as the Seed), to create a 2 Ranch. This would transform a 2 ranch into

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2535 assigned to ais523

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 5:49 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > Due to the report's ratification, our current gamestate takes that > report to have been accurate, so the act cannot have been illegal. "Nevertheless, the ratification of a public document does not invalidate, reverse, alter, or cancel

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: hello all

On Sun, May 24, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: >> Also, I nominate coppro as Herald. > > You need support for this. I was under the impression an election had already been initiated.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:57 PM, comex wrote: > E could avoid breaching the rules by making a proposal to remove stale > proposals from the pool. And since I don't know what they all are, someone would claim that the proposal didn't specify which proposals clearly enough.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 6:57 PM, comex wrote: > E could avoid breaching the rules by making a proposal to remove stale > proposals from the pool. I did in fact do just that, assuming that I'd get an objection. However, when I didn't, I figured trying to get an AI-3 proposal passed was a lot harde

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6302 - 6323

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Quazie wrote: > COE 6309 passed, ai=vi VI has to be > 1 as well.

DIS: Re: BUS: Leaving

On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > Tue 12 May 17:59 Wooble Wins by High Score. All scores are reset. The reset doesn't happen until a week after the win, to give a chance to declare a skunk.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Conversion

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 2:44 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Tue, 2009-05-26 at 17:28 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: >> Quazie wrote: >> > Also, what does the membership of bayes look like? >> >> I think it's terminated due to insufficient membership for a >> non-pledge. > > The relevant text from Bayes: > {{

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting results for Proposals 6302 - 6323

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:15 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > Defendant's Arguments: Regardless of my guilt or innocence on the matter, I > believe that if I am found guilty, it would be fundamentally unjust for any > sentencing other than DISMISS as it is standard for gmail to use MIME and I > cannot

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: hello all

On Fri, May 22, 2009 at 10:19 PM, Benjamin Caplan wrote: > Kerim Aydin wrote: >> I change my nickname to Gravity Circumference Line Deja Vu Cardboard Duck >> e^(-kt). > > ... > > I change my name to Confusion Arises from Sufficiently Entropy-Infused > Nickname Permutation Overwhelming Initial Nic

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

On Mon, May 25, 2009 at 7:08 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > Gratuitous: Publishing an erroneous report (power-1 Rule) is less > serious than ratifying one (Class-8 Crime). Yes, but if the report is incorrect I'm obligated to publish an incorrect report weekly, making the cumulative violation potentially

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Nicked Off

On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > On Thu, 28 May 2009, Roger Hicks wrote: >> As soon as possible after registering for the first time a player CAN >> and SHALL select a unique nickname to be used by Agora in the >> identification of that player on official documents. That nic

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: zeckalpha is to be registered.

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 4:09 AM, Alexander Smith wrote: > It could have been interesting, but it collapsed when Iammars became > inactive, and I don't think there have been any attempts to resurrect it > since. I made an attempt to resurrect it and got no interest at all.

DIS: Re: BUS: They're Proposals Too!

On Sun, May 31, 2009 at 7:59 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > Proposal {They're Proposals Too!}, AI=2, II=1 > {{{ > In Rule 1607, remove the word "Distributed" in the second-to-last paragraph. > > Assign each proposal the distributed proposal ID number it had prior to > the adoption of this proposal, if any

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Janitor's Report

On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 3:09 PM, Taral wrote: > What's with the grocer's' apostrophe's? You mi's'spelled "apo'strophe's".

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: The Conservative Party

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 8:40 AM, comex wrote: > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 1:12 AM, Benjamin Caplan > wrote: >>  3. Immediately after an Agoran Decision is initiated, the Conservative >> Party acts on behalf of each of its parties to cause that party to vote >> on that decision with the option selecte

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Switch CFJ

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:57 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Proto:  "If all legal potential judges have disfavored a case, the > CotC should assign it to whomever among them disfavored it last". > (Will wait and see if this is necessary on this case before proposing). Competing proto: "If all legal pot

DIS: Re: BUS: Farming

On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 12:04 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: > I mill 6 - 7 = X. > I mill 6 - 7 = X. > I mill 6 * 9 = X. The last 2 fail; you're out of 6 crops.

DIS: Re: BUS: Inactivation

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 11:51 PM, Christian Julius wrote: > On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 6:25 AM, comex wrote: >> >> I intend, without objection, to make Siege inactive. > > I object to making Siege inactive. Can we inactivate by proposal?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We need a live bank again.

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 1:53 AM, Benjamin Caplan wrote: >      The Assessor's report contains a list of all pending intents to >      perform dependent actions. Doesn't really work; just post your sneaky intent immediately after the Assessor's report is published and you can resolve it before a ne

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We need a live bank again.

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 3:36 PM, Roger Hicks wrote: > Arguments: Pavitra didn't say "I transfer all my crops to the IBA", > instead e attempted to perform an action defined by the IBA contract > (deposit) which if successful would result in the transfer of assets > from Pavitra to the bank. "A per

DIS: Re: BUS: This Pledge Should Have Terminated

On Wed, Jun 3, 2009 at 11:10 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > The pledge with the following text: > > Players may add or remove an email address as a "send-only address" > to a specific Public Forum Without Objection. The Distributor SHALL > take what actions are necessary to permit (or prevent, as app

DIS: Re: BUS: Lurking

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:38 AM, Paul VanKoughnett wrote: > I retract my proposal "Very little to no lurk time." Fails; no such proposal was ever in the Pool.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Inactivation

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 12:10 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Maybe we should be permitted to make people inactive by support (rather > than w/o objection) if they have not voted for N months or M proposals. As long as you can flip yourself back to Active by announcement, it wouldn't matter much either w

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Inactivation

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 1:59 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I know it's unimaginable now; but in past we've gone through slow periods > with many fewer distributions (even none for two months).  It's slowing > down now due to distributability.  To prevent us from all suddenly being > able to all make eac

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Inactivation

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Benjamin Caplan wrote: > The idea is that there would be some people that aren't interested in > being legislators, but are interested in other parts of the game > (judging, contract subgames, etc.) I refer again to the analogy with > Posture: a person can be an act

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No idea

On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 3:58 PM, Elliott Hird wrote: > It takes ~30s average for me; often I just give up looking for > anything. It's really quite annoying; I'm willing to host it if you > decide making its speed usable at all is a good idea... ...and if you don't think setting it up to suffer th

DIS: Re: BUS: Senators

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 1:52 PM, Charles Walker wrote: > Evidence: > R105 states: > > A variation in whitespace or capitalization in the quotation of an > existing rule does not constitute ambiguity for the purposes of this rule, > but any other variation does. Well, this might mean that even if th

DIS: Re: BUS: Is this right?

On Fri, Jun 5, 2009 at 2:24 PM, Rodlen wrote: > I wish for the following proposal to be placed in the pool: > > What embargo? > Adoption Index: 1.0 > > {Repeal Rule 2207.} Simply clearly labeling a published body of text as a proposal, which you've done, looks sufficient under R106 to me. Althoug

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fantasy Rules Contest awards

On Sat, Jun 6, 2009 at 4:11 PM, Sean Hunt wrote: > Geoffrey Spear wrote: >> I destroy 10+10i points in my own possession > Huh? > It's my act of repentance.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Lurking

On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Alex Smith wrote: >> > "(i) Leapt before Lookt, awarded to those individuals who attempted to >> > emulate First Speaker Michael Norrish by registering as soon as >> > possible after hearing about Agora." >> > >> > Award the Patent Title of Not A Lurker to Yally, Mu

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Attitude

On Sun, Jun 7, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Paul VanKoughnett wrote: > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 3:53 AM, Alex Smith wrote: >> On Mon, 2009-06-01 at 21:44 -0700, Charles Reiss wrote: >>> On 6/1/09 6:13 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: >>> > On Mon, Jun 1, 2009 at 11:33 AM, comex >> > > wrote: >>

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Pool Report

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:13 AM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > > > On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Geoffrey Spear > wrote: >> >> On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:07 AM, Geoffrey Spear >> wrote: >> > Denied.  You made the proposal with the same titl

Re: DIS: The Game

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:59 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: > I lost The Game. I won The Game. Thanks for playing, everyone.

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6344-6354

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 2:28 PM, Sgeo wrote: >>> 6345 D 2 3.0 Pavitra             Time travel >> FOR, unless there's reason to believe that this can hurt Agora. H. Assessor: please evaluate this as a conditional vote evaluating to no vote :P

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Low Priority Offices, the Porter and Bleeding Eyes Aren't that Bad

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 3:45 PM, Benjamin Caplan wrote: > Charles Walker wrote: >> The Porter > You misspelled Portor. :P > > Actually, I think this should be called something more obviously > descriptive of its function -- in particular, something that makes the > office's function clear to new pla

Re: DIS: The Game

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Kyle Marek-Spartz wrote: > You did not. Check out losethegame.com I scammed The Game to get a dictatorship and change the rules so I could win and end The Game for everyone. Next I'm planning to exploit a loophole in the Wimbledon rules to win the mixed doubles ti

Re: DIS: The Game

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 1:09 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > Well, too bad for em that e (am I allowed to say he when it's clear > that he's male?) has misunderstood the rules of the Game. They're > quite simple, really. Many novices believe the same thing about chess, go, and parliamentary democracy.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Quick Appointments

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 1:29 PM, Benjamin Caplan wrote: > I think it used to be ADoP -- would one of the older players explain why > it changed? I haven't been around for nearly that long, but I always assumed it was a Drew Carey reference.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Quick Appointments

On Tue, Jun 9, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Benjamin Caplan wrote: > I assume there's someone here from Canada (the country)? I'm pretty sure beavers can't communicate in English via email.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Quick Appointments

On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Quazie's probably chomping at the bit, so I'll say I planned to have the > next draft of Cards circulating round about the 15th.  (remember idea is > to not have them go through until after the Birthday).  -G. We just have to keep distributabil

DIS: Re: BUS: Janitor Deputisation intent

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:32 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > I intend to deputise for the Janitor to publish the following proposal: Why? You already have a Cyan ribbon, and you can publish proposals yourself.

DIS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Anarchist Election

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 1:57 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > I initiate an election to decide the holder of the Anarchist office. > The eligible voters are the active players, the vote collector is the > IADoP, and the valid options are allispaul, C-walker, Tiger > (incumbent), Yally, and PRESENT. Fai

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Anarchist Election

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 2:09 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > The election has been initiated, what happened now was that the voting > period started. I doubt it.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Terms

On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 7:14 PM, comex wrote: > On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >>      Any player CAN, by announcement, initiate an election for a >>      specified elected office for which no election has been >>      initiated in the preceding 90 days.  Any player CAN, with

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Being sneaky

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > Shouldn't it be judged MALFORMED, then? Or can the CotC catch those > before they're assigned? You only CAN initiate an inquiry CFJ if you include a statement. Arguably it should be impossible for MALFORMED to be an appropriate judgment.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Being sneaky

On Fri, Jun 12, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > ps. Maybe not the best reference (i.e. a good dictionary would give dialect > origin, maybe the source does) but: http://www.yourdictionary.com/marvy. marvy, adj. slang (chiefly U.S.). = MARVELLOUS adj. 2. 1932 G. LORIMER & S. LORIMER Men

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Low Priority Offices, the Porter and Bleeding Eyes Aren't that Bad

On Mon, Jun 8, 2009 at 3:53 PM, Charles Walker wrote: > I retract (of if that fails remove from the proposal pool) the above > discussed proposal, and submit a new identical one, except with all > instances of "Porter" replaced with "Greetor". I'm treating this as ineffective in submitting a new p

Re: DIS: proto: proto pool

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 8:32 AM, Charles Walker wrote: > My hope is that this solves the problems of large, cluttered > distributions and badly written proposals. Add a penalty for authoring proposals that are rejected to the current distributability system and the problem goes away without an ext

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Gramatically Correct

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 12:26 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > Isn't > the point of the game to have arbitrary proposals? As it is, the > number of proposals (including good proposals) will drop. I know I > won't be submitting as many. The point of the game is that the rules can change. Whether it's g

DIS: Re: BUS: [Enigma] Last week's results

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 5:30 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > You cannot for >> sure determine which side of a coin is which. > I award 4 x-points to Rodlen for a correct answer. Eir answer involved > feeling for heads and tails, which is against the spirit of the puzzle, > but nevertheless correct. (It's

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Enigma] Last week's results

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > Ah, misread that. There is a loophole here, if you like; which is that > you can determine with a high certainty even if you can't determine for > sure. Back when Murphy was contestmaster e implied a frictionless cake cutting surface that wasn't

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: An action

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > It's just an oxymoron, like jumbo shrimp. Jumbo shrimp aren't an oxymoron. You're thinking of swiss cheese.

DIS: Re: BUS: Banking/farming

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 5:15 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > If any of the above harvesting actions failed, I do those actions > again using Xs where needed. This isn't necessary; X crop usage is now implied if necessary.

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: No More Distributability

On Sat, Jun 13, 2009 at 10:21 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > I transfer one prop from myself to CotC Murphy for not getting all my ducks > in a row before the CFJ: > > Another gratuitous argument on my most recent CFJ: > > There was indeed at least one proposal that went into the pool between > the ann

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: No More Distributability

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 5:28 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: >> Note to Conductor: this probably means that my attempt to spend 3 >> notes to make this undistributable failed. >> > What intent is e talking about here? As far as I can see, the proposal > was published, made distributable through support,

Re: DIS: With Notes leaving, so should Rests

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 3:28 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: > I disagree. Switching to REASSIGN doesn't deny salary, it just prevents > excess salary from being earned. The judge still gets salary for > judgments like "TRUE because pigs were on an airplane" or "FALSE > because". Heck, you still get salary fo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: No More Distributability

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 8:03 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > As far as I can see, the flips I covered in my previous post are all > that matters. Between the time it was published and the time it was > made undistributable, it was made distributable at least once, through > support. If it was also inc

Re: DIS: Do card specialty decks?

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:41 AM, Paul VanKoughnett wrote: > A card that allows you (with certain restrictions) to add a new card > to the deck. I had the same thought: the Blank White Card. Maybe you can set its effects without N objections and then add it to the deck as a new card.

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: With Notes leaving, so should Rests

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Elliott Hird wrote: > I believe merely forging banknotes is illegal in the UK. I'm pretty > sure defacing coins is. I'm pretty sure forging banknotes is illegal just about everywhere. In the US, it's perfectly legal to deface coins, as long as you're not doing an

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [IADoP] Janitor Election

On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 2:58 PM, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > Quazie has not performed his duties as Janitor for two consecutive weeks > (and he only has performed them once). Yes. That's exactly why I voted for em.

DIS: Re: BUS: Distributability test

> I intend, without /three/ objections, to make this proposal > distributable. Umm, how?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Distributability test

On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > Is this even possible? Does the "permitted" in the sentence "if no > other player is permitted to distribute a proposal, anyone can without > three objections" mean can or may? It means MAY, but combined with "A player specifically permitt

DIS: Re: BUS: Judgement, CFJ 2585

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 9:37 AM, Elliott Hird wrote: > > I Dance a Powerful Dance. tiyaeotkoisidtidthpalalt.

DIS: Re: BUS: Farming / Banking

On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Charles Reiss wrote: > I IBA-withdraw 2 5 crops (for, I think, 54zm). fails, you have no 5 crops. >        3 + 7 = X >        4 * 8 = X >        4 * 8 = X >        4 * 8 = X >        8 / 3 = X >        8 / 3 = X >        8 / 3 = X >        8 / 3 = X >        7 / 4

DIS: Re: BUS: Farming / Banking

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 4:37 PM, Charles Reiss wrote: >> I IBA-withdraw 2 5 crops (for, I think, 54zm). > > fails, you have no 5 crops. > >>        3 + 7 = X >>        4 * 8 = X >>        4 * 8 = X >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Farming / Banking

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:35 AM, comex wrote: > This partially fails (unless I was wrong about Pavitra's crop > holdings?) because the IBA only had 3 8 crops. The AAA report of 8 June listed it with 4 8 crops. If it was incorrect, it's still since self-ratified.

DIS: Re: BUS: Points Relay Service II

On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 11:50 AM, C-walker wrote: > I object. What exactly is the point? (No pun intended). The same as the last PRS; to subvert the democratic process to create a market for a scarce resource. If you want it to be easier to transfer points (and it is already easier than it was wh

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