On 20 July 2013 16:59, Sean Hunt wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 11:47 AM, Charles Walker
> wrote:
>> Since I missed the time limit for initiation by a few hours, the
>> decision was never actually initiated.
>
> I believe the precedent is that the CAN lasts until the a
On 20 Jul 2013 19:10, "omd" wrote:
> Proposal: Infraction cases (AI=2, PF=25)
FOR, but we should review the Classes of current crimes and upgrade a few
SHALLs/SHALL NOTs to Crimes. If no one does so next week I'll look into it.
Also, do we really need Classes of Crime? Could just have Infraction
On 22 Jul 2013 21:39, "omd" wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:23 PM, omd wrote:
> > [18 proposals]
>
> So what are we really trying to achieve in limiting proposals to MI?
> Is it largely just a cash sink, or are we really trying to delay a
> potentially large number of proposals for a week in
On 23 Jul 2013 15:09, "Benjamin Schultz" wrote:
>
> On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 10:06 AM, Charles Walker <
charles.w.wal...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> SENSEI'S STONE REPORT
>>
>> This report: 20 Jul 2013
>> Last report: 12 Jul 2013
>>
>&g
On 24 Jul 2013 08:39, "James Beirne" wrote:
>
> What follows is not really a direct reply but is an explanation, of
> sorts, for my feelings towards the sentence, particularly as to why I
> feel a time out is appropriate.
The panel (and future judges) should consider that the defendant recently
m
On 24 Jul 2013 18:11, "James Beirne" wrote:
>
> >The panel (and future judges) should consider that the defendant
recently made emself inactive, rendering TIME OUT most likely ineffectual.
>
> E was not inactive at the time of the original sentencing, though.
Quite, but there's no point overrulin
On 24 Jul 2013 20:40, "omd" wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 3:38 AM, James Beirne
wrote:
> > Furthermore, it seems
> > to me that failure to publish a report should not be considered a
> > "minor infraction" as (for me, at least), it serves as an important
> > tool to keep up with the game.
>
On 24 Jul 2013 21:20, "omd" wrote:
>
> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Charles Walker
> wrote:
> > Moreover, most officers are late occasionally and it is definitely not
in
> > the interests of the game to drive them away every time they miss a
report.
> >
On Friday, 26 July 2013, Charles Walker wrote:
> On Friday, 26 July 2013, Eric Stucky wrote:
>
>> I register.
>>
>>
>> [ -Turiski ]
>>
>
> Welcome!
>
Back!
On Friday, 26 July 2013, Eric Stucky wrote:
> I register.
>
>
> [ -Turiski ]
>
Welcome!
On 28 July 2013 15:06, Tanner Swett wrote:
> The tabular data in this report doesn't line up properly when viewed in a
> monospaced font.
The version the list sent back to me looks fine. What are you seeing?
On 28 Jul 2013, at 16:00, Tanner Swett wrote:
> On Jul 28, 2013, at 10:21 AM, Charles Walker wrote:
>> On 28 July 2013 15:06, Tanner Swett wrote:
>>> The tabular data in this report doesn't line up properly when viewed in a
>>> monospaced font.
>>
>>
On 29 July 2013 22:30, omd wrote:
> It would, incidentally, be more polite to attempt to achieve a
> dictatorship in a way other than deregistering everyone.
Especially when it would have been just as easy to do it some other,
less annoying, way.
On 29 July 2013 23:40, Ørjan Johansen wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Jul 2013, Alex Smith wrote:
>
>> If they dispose of their dictatorship quickly via win+trophy, Agora
>> typically tolerates them. (Sometimes there's a race where someone with a
>> power-1 dictatorship tries to get it at a higher power; norm
On 30 July 2013 04:05, omd wrote:
> The following proposals have been left behind this week:
>
> AI PF C D AUTHOR TITLE
>
> 7565 2 25 O 1 Walker Civil service reform
> 7566 1 20 O 1 Walker because nobody cares
In a given Agoran week, the Promotor SHALL, as part of eir
On 30 July 2013 15:43, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> On Tue, 30 Jul 2013, Fool wrote:
>> On 30/07/2013 3:19 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> > On Mon, 29 Jul 2013, Elliott Hird wrote:
>> > > This whole thing strikes me as being in incredibly poor form and I
>> > > disapprove of it.
>> > >
>> > > (People who were
On 31 Jul 2013, at 22:25, Jonathan Rouillard
wrote:
> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 3:55 PM, Alex Smith wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, 2013-07-31 at 12:49 -0700, John Smith wrote:
>>> Fails because you aren't authorized to act on behalf of Davy 1.
>>> Saying 'Person X told me to act on their behalf' isn't co
On 1 Aug 2013 18:31, "Sean Hunt" wrote:
>
> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 12:40 PM, omd wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 10:45 PM, Fool wrote:
> >> Agora pulls a B (AI=3.1, PF=0, disi.)
> >>
> >> In rule 1551 (Ratification, Power=3.1), replace the sentence:
> >>
> >> Ratifying a public document
On 1 Aug 2013 19:35, "Max Schutz" wrote:
>
> I need a little more intel on the red tape humbug and kirby proposal
FOR, AGAINST and AGAINST respectively. There's a trick where you convert
the proposal text into a folded string which shows you the correct vote.
I'll show you sometime.
On 2 August 2013 11:22, Fool wrote:
> On 01/08/2013 1:34 PM, omd wrote:
>
>> * I also attempt to distribute this with Chamber of each of Green,
>> Red, and Purple (in that case, the proposal is separately Ordinary).
>
>
> What's that about? Nice colour scheme though.
Thanks, I chose it.
The Ambassador-at-Large intends to unofficially deputise for the Envoy
to complete that office's duties, which are to advertise Agora in
appropriate non-Agoran public fora. But first, I thought I'd gather
some opinions and ask questions about related topics.
As part of eir continual stakeholder ex
On 3 Aug 2013, at 15:38, Tanner Swett wrote:
>> - Where is it appropriate to advertise Agora? What kind of fora? Any
>> specific sites?
>
> Anywhere where there are lots of people who would enjoy playing Agora. I
> don't know where such people are.
What other corners of the Internet do current
On 3 Aug 2013 17:08, "Kerim Aydin" wrote:
> This final reduction, after a period of inactivity, was followed by the
> drastic INCREASE of CFJs in 2007-2008. No sure whether to find cause and
> effect there at all!
Do you think the increase in CFJs reflected an actual increase in ambiguity
or a c
On 5 Aug 2013, at 04:30, woggle wrote:
>> 7553 3 20 O omd Remove useless vote protection
> If G. casts a vote on this proposal, ENDORSE G. x my voting limit on it;
> otherwise, AGAINST x my voting limit on it.
G.'s vote was cast by me on this proposal, using the Summer Votes promise, a
On 5 August 2013 19:30, Fool wrote:
> The Crown cited the precedent of CFJ 2515 against me, where it is said that
> bringing Agora into severe disrepute could constitute an R101 violation.
Clearly bringing Agora into severe disrepute is not the only way of
failing to treat Agora right good foreve
On 5 August 2013 20:49, omd wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Geoffrey Spear wrote:
>> An alternate viewpoint:
>
> CoE since ratification will probably be fixed in the next week: in the
> normal universe, this is incorrect for obvious reasons.
Can someone please give me a counterargument
On 5 August 2013 21:35, omd wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 4:32 PM, omd wrote:
>>> Can someone please give me a counterargument to "When created,
>>> switches have their default values" == "new switches have their
>>> default values"?
>>
>> Rule 1586.
>
> By the way, the rules didn't actually sa
On 5 August 2013 23:59, omd wrote:
> Proto: I Am Wearing A Unicorn Horn (AI=3, PF=100)
>
> aka Unnecessary Nebulous Intricacies & Complexities Oblige Repeal Now
I express my general agreement.
> Amend Rule 101 (The Rights of Agorans) by removing item i., and
> renumbering the following items acc
On 6 August 2013 13:23, Fool wrote:
> Proto: the vote collector can end a vote early with support of all (other)
> eligible voters; by announcement if e is the only eligible voter or if there
> are none.
>
> Don't have time to figure out how to write this one out just now. Do feel
> free to submit
On 6 August 2013 16:57, Craig Daniel wrote:
> The Tutor is an office whose holdor is responsible for maintaining the
> Tutorial. The Tutor CAN edit the Tutorial at any time, and SHOULD do
> so as necessary to keep it current and accurate. The Tutor also SHALL
> make sure the current text of the Tu
On 6 August 2013 22:08, Sean Hunt wrote:
> AGAINST because this is a substantive change that shouldn't get free
> distribution
You're in favour of stricter Distributability?
I'd really appreciate some feedback on the following, in particular
whether the ###-delimited section should be removed or not, but also
generally.
--- A PLAYERS' GUIDE TO THE GAME OF AGORA ---
Table of Contents
-
I.What is nomic?
II. What is Agora?
III. The Mailing Lists
I
I'd also appreciate any comments on this, which is obviously related
to the "Players' Guide" post. H. Rulekeepor, Max Schutz, what do you
think of the ruleset formats?
Helpfulness
AI 1
PF 40
Append to Rule 1681 (The Logical Rulesets):
The Helpful Logical Ruleset (HLR) is a format of the ru
On 6 August 2013 22:35, Max Schutz wrote:
> it's good btw did you get my critiquing on your beginners guide
Yes, thank you.
On 6 August 2013 23:55, Craig Daniel wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Max Schutz wrote:
>> wait why are you cfj'ing this
>
> Because that is the customary way of resolving matters of ambiguity.
And because it's fun!
For some people.
On 7 Aug 2013, at 01:26, Alex Smith wrote:
> On Tue, 2013-08-06 at 20:24 -0400, Max Schutz wrote:
>> wait we have to re-register again
>
> Probably not. Wooble thinks we do, but I'm not sure if anyone else
> agrees with em.
>
> One common problem with nomic is that people disagree as to what th
On 7 August 2013 10:20, Sean Hunt wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 3:26 AM, James Beirne wrote:
>> CFJ: Fool violated Rule 101 by failing to treat Agora right good forever, by
>> purporting to deregister all other players and subsequently lock them out of
>> the game.
>>
>> Judgement: GUILTY/EXILE
On 7 August 2013 11:15, Sean Hunt wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 6:14 AM, Charles Walker
> wrote:
>> I suggest the judge file a motion to reconsider (Rule 2318) and assign
>> the correct judgement, as any ambiguity here is not a good idea.
>
> I think two mutually-cont
On 7 August 2013 05:27, omd wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 6, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Charles Walker
> wrote:
>> To subscribe to the mailing lists, go to http://agoranomic.org/ which
>> has links to all five lists.
>
> I would really like to decrease the burden of this, incidentally.
Here's the second draft, with everyone's corrections and suggestions
included. ais523 mentioned in irc that e got a degree for an "FAQ-like
document". Is this up to standard?
--- A PLAYERS' GUIDE TO THE GAME OF AGORA ---
Table of Contents
-
I.What is nomic?
II. What is Agora
On 7 August 2013 14:21, Benjamin Schultz wrote:
> On Props. 7548-7586, I vote ENDORSE Murphy.
It seems unlikely that Murphy will vote.
On 7 August 2013 15:13, Benjamin Schultz wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 9:27 AM, Charles Walker
> wrote:
>>
>> On 7 August 2013 14:21, Benjamin Schultz
>> wrote:
>> > On Props. 7548-7586, I vote ENDORSE Murphy.
>>
>> It seems unlikely that M
On 10 Aug 2013 02:01, "Craig Daniel" wrote:
>
> http://forum.rpg.net/showthread.php?690987-Tangenomic-VI
>
> Tangency is the off-topic forum on RPG.net (requires registration, is
> free). It's tried playing nomic in-forum, several times. This is the
> most recent attempt, is brand new, and is abou
On 12 August 2013 21:44, Benjamin Schultz wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 11, 2013 at 8:07 PM, Jonathan Rouillard
> wrote:
>>
>> Detail: http://cotc.psychose.ca/viewcase.php?cfj=3365
>>
>> = Criminal Case 3365 =
>>
>> scshunt has violated Rule 2143 (Offi
nommit has gone into a convention. Seems like a good time to join.
http://www.reddit.com/r/nommit/comments/1k8d78/new_game_convention/
On 14 Aug 2013, at 21:59, Nich Del Evans wrote:
> I register
>
> I submit (to the tree) the following persistent, revocable, promise,
> 'NRP: Non-Recursive Promise':
>
> Text: I act as specified by the casher in the cashing message.
> Cashing conditions: the casher creates a persistent, revoc
On 14 Aug 2013, at 22:06, Craig Daniel wrote:
> I'd suggest the same, if I were an elder and thus empowered to do so.
> (I'd've even suggested it after Sam, who might after all turn out to
> be a real person who for some reason just happens to share an e-mail
> address with Walker.)
Sam is a rea
On 14 Aug 2013, at 22:14, Craig Daniel wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:12 PM, Charles Walker
> wrote:
>> On 14 Aug 2013, at 22:06, Craig Daniel wrote:
>>
>>> I'd suggest the same, if I were an elder and thus empowered to do so.
>>> (I'd'
On 14 Aug 2013, at 22:16, omd wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Sean Hunt
> wrote:
>> I intend, with 3 Elder support, to declare a Gerontocracy.
>
> I support and do so.
A Gerontocracy cannot be declared until Friday.
On 14 Aug 2013, at 22:23, Charles Walker wrote:
> On 14 Aug 2013, at 22:16, omd wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Sean Hunt
>> wrote:
>>> I intend, with 3 Elder support, to declare a Gerontocracy.
>>
>> I support and do so.
>
> A
On 14 Aug 2013, at 22:25, Craig Daniel wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5:17 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, Charles Walker wrote:
>>> On 14 Aug 2013, at 22:14, Craig Daniel wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 14, 2013 at 5
On 14 Aug 2013, at 23:24, John Smith wrote:
> This fails to actually make most non-Elders supine because they don't have
> posture.
Well, stop slouching, non-players! Chest out, tummy in!
On 17 Aug 2013 19:37, "Tanner Swett" wrote:
>
> Brief further arguments: I think GUILTY is wholly inappropriate on 3383,
as Fool had no way of knowing eir actions would be considered to violate
Rule 101. At most, it would be appropriate to declare his actions illegal
and then judge NOT GUILTY.
>
>
On 20 Aug 2013, at 19:43, Tanner Swett wrote:
> On Aug 20, 2013, at 12:56 PM, Charles Walker wrote:
>> Inquiry CFJ: I violated Rule 2170 by selecting the nickname "wobble" in
>> ##nomic.
>
> The FLR contains the following annotation to Rule 2170:
>
>>
On 21 Aug 2013, at 13:05, Jonathan Rouillard
wrote:
> I'd be willing to handle every CotC action that has yet to be
> processed. I should have done it before resigning, but eh. Short of
> declaring intent to deputize for everything, is there something I can
> do to clean up the slate before pass
On 24 Aug 2013 19:38, "Sean Hunt" wrote:
>
> Agora's in a lull and it's going to quickly become full-fledged if we
> don't act quickly to restore order. Therefore, I propose the following
> to simplify a tad, and pay the Distributability Fee one time each to
> increase their Distributability.
>
>
On 24 Aug 2013 21:21, "Kerim Aydin" wrote:
>
>
>
> Both this batch of proposals and the recent ones show that the cost
> of proposals is absolutely no barrier, therefore it serves no purpose
> other than a busywork hassle. The cost should either be a significant
> barrier, or no cost, current sys
On 24 Aug 2013 21:31, "omd" wrote:
>
> On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:16 PM, Charles Walker
> wrote:
> > CoE: My bid was Y110.
> > CoE: my bid was Y160.
> > CoE: my bid was Y160.
>
> Admitted - you did indeed manage to semi-sneakily bid in a different
&g
On 24 Aug 2013 21:40, "Kerim Aydin" wrote:
>
>
>
> On Sat, 24 Aug 2013, Sean Hunt wrote:
> > On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:20 PM, Kerim Aydin
wrote:
> > > Both this batch of proposals and the recent ones show that the cost
> > > of proposals is absolutely no barrier, therefore it serves no purpose
>
On 24 Aug 2013, at 21:18, Sean Hunt wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 4:13 PM, Charles Walker
> wrote:
>> I don't understand. My reports on Okinawa and Parties have never been late
>> and neither of these aspects of the game are overly complicated, although
>> the
On 25 Aug 2013, at 02:01, Sean Hunt wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 24, 2013 at 7:31 PM, Charles Walker
> wrote:
>> I just think we're having the wrong conversation. We should be talking about
>> new gameplay ideas.
>
> No. New gameplay ideas are for when the core is workin
On 25 Aug 2013, at 08:51, omd wrote:
> On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 3:42 AM, Ørjan Johansen wrote:
>> COE: That is not ambiguous as it has exactly one reasonable interpretation.
>
> I transfer Y5 to the Assessor (Oerjan).
I'm treating this as having failed.
On 26 Aug 2013 16:23, "Kerim Aydin" wrote:
>
>
>
> Does anyone have any corrections in posture or unassigned
> cases (i.e. did I miss any) before I deputize to assign?
I believe that my posture is correct, and no other CFJs spring to mind. A
quick search doesn't reveal any more.
On 28 Aug 2013, at 22:53, Ed Murphy wrote:
> Fool wrote:
>
>> On 01/08/2013 1:34 PM, omd wrote:
>>
>>> * I also attempt to distribute this with Chamber of each of Green,
>>> Red, and Purple (in that case, the proposal is separately Ordinary).
>>
>> What's that about? Nice colour scheme though.
On 28 Aug 2013, at 19:37, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 28 Aug 2013, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>> == CFJ 3393 ==
>>
>>I violated Rule 2170 by selecting the nickname "wobble" in ##nomic.
>>
>> ===
On 1 Sep 2013, at 19:34, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> On Sun, 1 Sep 2013, Charles Walker wrote:
>> On 28 Aug 2013, at 19:37, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, 28 Aug 2013, Kerim Aydin wrote:
>>>> == CFJ 3393
On 1 September 2013 22:15, Joe Stefek wrote:
> My player name is aperfectring. I would appreciate this being reflected in
> future reports.
Of course. Noted and corrected in draft.
On 14 Sep 2013 12:15, "Kerim Aydin" wrote:
> On Sat, 14 Sep 2013, Ørjan Johansen wrote:
> > On Fri, 13 Sep 2013, woggle wrote:
> >
> > > I do not believe I will have time in the next month to fulfill the
> > > obligations created by Proposal 7599 for me to create two new formats
of the
> > > rules
On 20 Oct 2013 00:17, "Alex Smith" wrote:
>
> On Sat, 2013-10-19 at 16:08 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> > On Sat, 19 Oct 2013, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> > > On Sat, 19 Oct 2013, Alex Smith wrote:
> > > > I blame the economy for Agora's current slump.
> > >
> > > No. The entire fault is that we have no R
On 6 May 2014 23:38, "Aaron Goldfein" wrote:
>
> Are people interested in doing another blitz nomic around the time of
> Agora's birthday?
>
> If so, does anyone have any ideas for how we would construct the
> initial ruleset? One thought I had would be to take the ruleset we had
> at the end of A
For your perusal and comments. Thanks to Steve and G. for their
comments on this last year.
An Initial Set for playing Blitz Nomic
Rule 101, Immutable
All players must always abide by all the rules
then in effect, in the form in which they are then
in effect.
Each person has the right, althou
Happy Birthday Agora!
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