Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Six proposals

2008-12-15 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 12:14 -0800, Ed Murphy wrote: > ais523 wrote: > > > Also, it is a very bad idea to put SHOULDs into the rules which cause > > things other than players or people to carefully consider their actions. > > Interpretation is performed by people. > > > (I remember when I submitt

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Six proposals

2008-12-12 Thread comex
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Warrigal wrote: > Active would be "X wins the game"; passive would be "the game is won > [by X]". "To win the game" is an infinitive which has no subject and > is therefore neither active nor passive. "To win the game" is an active infinitive. A passive infinitiv

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Six proposals

2008-12-12 Thread Warrigal
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 11:16 AM, comex wrote: >> and by replacing this text: >> >> This is the only way to win the game >> >> with this text: >> >> The game CANNOT be won in any other way > > I still object to this clause, under the argument that active verbs > are generally better than

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Six proposals

2008-12-12 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: > Also, it is a very bad idea to put SHOULDs into the rules which cause > things other than players or people to carefully consider their actions. Interpretation is performed by people. > (I remember when I submitted the RBoA as a proposal with the wrong II, > thus causing it to br

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Six proposals

2008-12-12 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 08:53 -0800, Ed Murphy wrote: > ais523 wrote: > > > This breaks a huge number of rules. "[...] for which the question of > > veracity is defined as UNDECIDABLE" in rule 2110 is one of the most > > obvious, but the word "is" is common enough that nounphrase is > > nounphrase i

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Six proposals

2008-12-12 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: > This breaks a huge number of rules. "[...] for which the question of > veracity is defined as UNDECIDABLE" in rule 2110 is one of the most > obvious, but the word "is" is common enough that nounphrase is > nounphrase is a very common combination to find in all sorts of rules. > "Ea

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Six proposals

2008-12-12 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: > On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:55 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: >>a) "X is/are Y" >>b) "Y is/are known as X" > > "Any biological organism that is generally capable ... is a person" > might fall under this. Probably doesn't, but there are other > situations where phrasin

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Six proposals

2008-12-12 Thread Ed Murphy
ehird wrote: > On 12 Dec 2008, at 07:55, Ed Murphy wrote: > >> Proposal: Definition of definitions > > Where's the hidden dictatorship? Well, I'm not going to /tell/ you, now am I? (I hid "Murphy Wins" in the middle of a long proposal almost twelve years ago, but it was caught and rejected.)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Six proposals

2008-12-12 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2008-12-12 at 11:16 -0500, comex wrote: > On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:55 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: > >a) "X is/are Y" > >b) "Y is/are known as X" > > "Any biological organism that is generally capable ... is a person" > might fall under this. Probably doesn't, but there

DIS: Re: BUS: Six proposals

2008-12-12 Thread comex
On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 2:55 AM, Ed Murphy wrote: >a) "X is/are Y" >b) "Y is/are known as X" "Any biological organism that is generally capable ... is a person" might fall under this. Probably doesn't, but there are other situations where phrasing clearly not intended to

DIS: Re: BUS: Six proposals

2008-12-12 Thread Elliott Hird
On 12 Dec 2008, at 07:55, Ed Murphy wrote: Proposal: Definition of definitions Where's the hidden dictatorship?