Re: DIS: Re: BUS: SHOULD really sucks.

2009-03-14 Thread Ed Murphy
Goethe wrote: > Yah, that would be fine for the same practical effect, although it couldn't > wholly undo things - if the previous one changed a rule and then a later > one put it back, at the very least an amendment number would change. It > would be possible to go further and retroactively rese

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: SHOULD really sucks.

2009-03-14 Thread Elliott Hird
2009/3/14 Kerim Aydin : > Perhaps a typical example of the fallacy of "I Think It Is, Therefore It > Has Become So"? That has plagued Agora for a long time?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: SHOULD really sucks.

2009-03-14 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, comex wrote: > But I believe this is incorrect, because this is not a pragmatic > nomic: it's a platonic nomic with some explicit elements of > pragmatism. Perhaps a typical example of the fallacy of "I Think It Is, Therefore It Has Become So"?

DIS: Re: BUS: SHOULD really sucks.

2009-03-14 Thread comex
On Sat, Mar 14, 2009 at 2:53 AM, Sean Hunt wrote: > After having carefully considered the consequences of doing so, > including the fact that it opens up Agora to multiple easy wins; that it > reveals a serious flaw in the rules; and that it allows me to win, for > the duration of this message I w

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: SHOULD really sucks.

2009-03-14 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Alex Smith wrote: > On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 07:52 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: >>> >>> If the proposal entitled "Fix recursive SHOULD" was adopted at the same >>> time

DIS: Re: BUS: SHOULD really sucks.

2009-03-14 Thread Alex Smith
On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 00:53 -0600, Sean Hunt wrote: > After having carefully considered the consequences of doing so, > including the fact that it opens up Agora to multiple easy wins; that it > reveals a serious flaw in the rules; and that it allows me to win, for > the duration of this message I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: SHOULD really sucks.

2009-03-14 Thread Alex Smith
On Sat, 2009-03-14 at 07:52 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: > > > > If the proposal entitled "Fix recursive SHOULD" was adopted at the same > > time as this proposal, it is of no effect. > >

DIS: Re: BUS: SHOULD really sucks.

2009-03-14 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: > > If the proposal entitled "Fix recursive SHOULD" was adopted at the same > time as this proposal, it is of no effect. This is an interesting, orthogonal note. Assuming the referent o

DIS: Re: BUS: SHOULD really sucks.

2009-03-14 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sat, 14 Mar 2009, Sean Hunt wrote: > After having carefully considered the consequences of doing so, > including the fact that it opens up Agora to multiple easy wins; that it > reveals a serious flaw in the rules; and that it allows me to win, for > the duration of this message I will fail to