Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3000 assigned to omd

2011-05-20 Thread Ed Murphy
G. wrote: > On Fri, 20 May 2011, omd wrote: >> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> Since an "action statement" states that the performer is performing >> the action, "This may be ineffective." is equivalent to "This >> statement might be false." The precedent of 2

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3000 assigned to omd

2011-05-20 Thread ais523
On Fri, 2011-05-20 at 14:49 -0700, Ed Murphy wrote: > The two key sections of the disclaimer in CFJ 1971 are I, umm, think I got a bit too carried away writing that disclaimer, and I'm not sure if it makes for a very good precedent as a result. (I think it contradicts itself several times, as well

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3000 assigned to omd

2011-05-20 Thread Ed Murphy
omd wrote: > On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> == CFJ 3000 == >> >>In general, if a purported action by announcement is accompanied >>by a disclaimer equivalent to "this may be ineffective", without >>indicat

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3000 assigned to omd

2011-05-20 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 20 May 2011, omd wrote: > On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > I think the 2069 precedent is irrelevant here (as Judge Tanner L. Swett says > > in 2830). > > I disagree; even though 2069 was FALSE because an announcement is an > action, ais523 made a stronger argument

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3000 assigned to omd

2011-05-20 Thread omd
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 4:22 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I think the 2069 precedent is irrelevant here (as Judge Tanner L. Swett says > in 2830). I disagree; even though 2069 was FALSE because an announcement is an action, ais523 made a stronger argument in eir reasoning. > I think your 3000 judgem

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3000 assigned to omd

2011-05-20 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 20 May 2011, omd wrote: > On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> > > Since an "action statement" states that the performer is performing > >> > > the action, "This may be ineffective." is equivalent to "This > >> > > statement might be false."  The precedent of 2069 et

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3000 assigned to omd

2011-05-20 Thread omd
On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> > > Since an "action statement" states that the performer is performing >> > > the action, "This may be ineffective." is equivalent to "This >> > > statement might be false."  The precedent of 2069 etc. is that some >> > > actions, including

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3000 assigned to omd

2011-05-20 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 20 May 2011, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > >    In general, if a purported action by announcement is accompanied > > > >    by a disclaimer equivalent to "this may be ineffective", without > > > >    indicating why it may be ineffective, then the action is > > > >    ineffective due to ambigu

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3000 assigned to omd

2011-05-20 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 20 May 2011, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Fri, 20 May 2011, omd wrote: > > On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > > > ==  CFJ 3000  == > > > > > >    In general, if a purported action by announcement is accompanied > > >    

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3000 assigned to omd

2011-05-20 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 20 May 2011, omd wrote: > On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > > ==  CFJ 3000  == > > > >    In general, if a purported action by announcement is accompanied > >    by a disclaimer equivalent to "this may be ineffect