Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Appeal 3365a assigned to Ienpw III, woggle, Yally

2013-07-25 Thread Charles Walker
On 24 Jul 2013 21:20, "omd" wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Charles Walker > wrote: > > Moreover, most officers are late occasionally and it is definitely not in > > the interests of the game to drive them away every time they miss a report. > > In fact I think it's almost always a ba

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Appeal 3365a assigned to Ienpw III, woggle, Yally

2013-07-24 Thread omd
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 3:56 PM, Charles Walker wrote: > Moreover, most officers are late occasionally and it is definitely not in > the interests of the game to drive them away every time they miss a report. > In fact I think it's almost always a bad idea to stop someone from playing > as opposed

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Appeal 3365a assigned to Ienpw III, woggle, Yally

2013-07-24 Thread Charles Walker
On 24 Jul 2013 20:40, "omd" wrote: > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 3:38 AM, James Beirne wrote: > > Furthermore, it seems > > to me that failure to publish a report should not be considered a > > "minor infraction" as (for me, at least), it serves as an important > > tool to keep up with the game. >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Appeal 3365a assigned to Ienpw III, woggle, Yally

2013-07-24 Thread omd
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 3:38 AM, James Beirne wrote: > Furthermore, it seems > to me that failure to publish a report should not be considered a > "minor infraction" as (for me, at least), it serves as an important > tool to keep up with the game. Well, again, even if there are exacerbating circu

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Appeal 3365a assigned to Ienpw III, woggle, Yally

2013-07-24 Thread James Beirne
>Quite, but there's no point overruling to TIME OUT. Ideally I'd have preferred to assess a different penalty, but I wasn't sure whether doing so merely because he had subsequently gone on hold would have been inappropriate. On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Jonathan Rouillard wrote: > On Wed, Ju

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Appeal 3365a assigned to Ienpw III, woggle, Yally

2013-07-24 Thread Jonathan Rouillard
On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 2:52 PM, Charles Walker wrote: > On 24 Jul 2013 18:11, "James Beirne" wrote: >> >> >The panel (and future judges) should consider that the defendant recently >> > made emself inactive, rendering TIME OUT most likely ineffectual. >> >> E was not inactive at the time of the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Appeal 3365a assigned to Ienpw III, woggle, Yally

2013-07-24 Thread Charles Walker
On 24 Jul 2013 18:11, "James Beirne" wrote: > > >The panel (and future judges) should consider that the defendant recently made emself inactive, rendering TIME OUT most likely ineffectual. > > E was not inactive at the time of the original sentencing, though. Quite, but there's no point overrulin

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Appeal 3365a assigned to Ienpw III, woggle, Yally

2013-07-24 Thread James Beirne
>The panel (and future judges) should consider that the defendant recently made >emself inactive, rendering TIME OUT most likely ineffectual. E was not inactive at the time of the original sentencing, though. On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 7:07 AM, Charles Walker wrote: > On 24 Jul 2013 08:39, "James

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Appeal 3365a assigned to Ienpw III, woggle, Yally

2013-07-24 Thread Charles Walker
On 24 Jul 2013 08:39, "James Beirne" wrote: > > What follows is not really a direct reply but is an explanation, of > sorts, for my feelings towards the sentence, particularly as to why I > feel a time out is appropriate. The panel (and future judges) should consider that the defendant recently m

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Appeal 3365a assigned to Ienpw III, woggle, Yally

2013-07-24 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 24 Jul 2013, James Beirne wrote: > If players were compelled to hold offices I'd feel differently, but > whereas it's entirely voluntary, failure to discharge duties (ie., not > do something you signed up to do) seems (to me) deserving of a > stricter punishment. If one wanted to not disc

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Appeal 3365a assigned to Ienpw III, woggle, Yally

2013-07-24 Thread James Beirne
What follows is not really a direct reply but is an explanation, of sorts, for my feelings towards the sentence, particularly as to why I feel a time out is appropriate. Perhaps this is coming from my lack of experience, but the rules seem to very clearly permit and encourage appellate panels to p

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Appeal 3365a assigned to Ienpw III, woggle, Yally

2013-07-24 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 24 Jul 2013, James Beirne wrote: > >but that we also wish to avoid making a decision on sentencing on our own > > Is that not exactly what the text of rule 911 states we should do? There's actually a difference of opinion here. I personally think appeals courts should overrule more tha

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Appeal 3365a assigned to Ienpw III, woggle, Yally

2013-07-23 Thread James Beirne
>but that we also wish to avoid making a decision on sentencing on our own Is that not exactly what the text of rule 911 states we should do?