Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3551 assigned to o

2017-08-16 Thread Owen Jacobson
I still plan to publish a revised judgement. (Hon. Arbitor, a tiny bit of forebearance before you reassign it? I’ve spent this evening catching up, not making much in the way of forward progress.) Will that do? -o > On Aug 3, 2017, at 5:26 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: > > Cou

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3551 assigned to o

2017-08-03 Thread Aris Merchant
It better be a report, or it wouldn't self ratify, which we seem to be assuming it does. -Aris On Wed, Aug 2, 2017 at 11:22 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Totally agree, the CoE part is an unforeseen loophole! > > I suppose up you could argue that the R2201 duty is to publish a "revision" > which

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3551 assigned to o

2017-08-03 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Could you give insight into this? Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On Aug 3, 2017, at 2:05 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > > > On Aug 3, 2017, at 1:12 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > >> I find the statement >> >>> If V.J. Rada posted the following text conta

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3551 assigned to o

2017-08-02 Thread Kerim Aydin
If you're pondering this, It might be worth pondering how deputization plays in here. If an Officer misses "last week's" report, but then publishes "this week's" report, can someone else still deputize to publish "last week's " report? If you say " no, because it's impossible to go back in ti

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3551 assigned to o

2017-08-02 Thread Kerim Aydin
Totally agree, the CoE part is an unforeseen loophole! I suppose up you could argue that the R2201 duty is to publish a "revision" which isn't the same thing as a report? On Wed, 2 Aug 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: > Just to clarify my original argument, it's my belief that duty > fulfilling repo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3551 assigned to o

2017-08-02 Thread Owen Jacobson
I intend to at least try to establish some precedent around when, precisely, a periodic duty such as a weekly report is “due,” and to do so in a way that allows it to come due with sufficient time for the officer to fulfil it before it becomes overdue and a card may be issued. We’ll see how succ

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3551 assigned to o

2017-08-02 Thread Kerim Aydin
The "duty" in that rule is to perform the "task" at least once. If you do it more times, it's still only the singular duty of doing the task "at least once" in the given time period. On Thu, 3 Aug 2017, Owen Jacobson wrote: > I considered that, at least superficially, but note the “at least”

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3551 assigned to o

2017-08-02 Thread Aris Merchant
Just to clarify my original argument, it's my belief that duty fulfilling report is one that fulfills an official obligation (you could be punished for not doing that job, and now you can't). A CoE revision fulfills the duty to handle the CoE, and it is a report, so... Basically, I agree with the c

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3551 assigned to o

2017-08-02 Thread Owen Jacobson
I considered that, at least superficially, but note the “at least” in the definition of “weekly duties.” Even considering the common term “duty,” that “at least” appears to make any weekly report duty-fulfilling, regardless of how long it’s been since the previous report. The other option I cou

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3551 assigned to o

2017-08-02 Thread Kerim Aydin
The rules define official duty as "any duty..." but do not the word duty in general. Seems worthy of reconsideration as it misses this basic definition. The definitition of Duty (in dictionary) is something required to be performed, and once a shall is satisfied, there is no requirement (ie