On Sat, 2008-09-20 at 23:50 -0400, Sgeo wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 6:34 PM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I still have a strong feeling that Agora needs some sort of safety valve
> >> to escape from situat
On Sat, 2008-09-20 at 20:10 -0400, ihope wrote:
> The proposal system's 12 (actually higher than 12, of course) gets
> bigger whenever 26 gets bigger. A with-support rule's 12 does not.
I challenge that "actually higher"; barring vetos, I believe that a team
of 11 Scamsters working together could c
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 6:34 PM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I still have a strong feeling that Agora needs some sort of safety valve
>> to escape from situations where the normal proposal system doesn't work,
>>
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 9:26 PM, Geoffrey Spear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 6:34 PM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I still have a strong feeling that Agora needs some sort of safety valve
>> to escape from situations where the normal proposal system doesn't work,
>>
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 6:34 PM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I still have a strong feeling that Agora needs some sort of safety valve
> to escape from situations where the normal proposal system doesn't work,
> maybe after seeing it happen to B Nomic at least twice in the last year.
B does
On Sat, 20 Sep 2008, Ian Kelly wrote:
>> Nobody has 12 friends. Unless, I guess, they're non-Agoran friends who
>> all register at once. Maybe we could limit registrations to
>> one-per-week-or-without-three-objections.
>
> That was the sort of situation I met, and I don't think this would be
> wo
> >> No, it has the problem that anybody with 12 friends can do
> >> anything they want.
> >
> > Isn't this true of the proposal system in general, for
> > sufficiently large values of 12?
>
> The proposal system's 12 (actually higher than 12, of course) gets
> bigger whenever 26 gets bigger. A wit
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 7:30 PM, Ben Caplan
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Saturday 20 September 2008 05:53:58 pm Ian Kelly wrote:
>> No, it has the problem that anybody with 12 friends can do anything
>> they want.
>
> Isn't this true of the proposal system in general, for sufficiently
> large va
On Saturday 20 September 2008 05:53:58 pm Ian Kelly wrote:
> No, it has the problem that anybody with 12 friends can do anything
> they want.
Isn't this true of the proposal system in general, for sufficiently
large values of 12?
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 5:03 PM, ihope <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 4:34 PM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> I still have a strong feeling that Agora needs some sort of safety valve
>>> to escape
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 4:34 PM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> I still have a strong feeling that Agora needs some sort of safety valve
>> to escape from situations where the normal proposal system doesn't work,
>> maybe
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 4:34 PM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I still have a strong feeling that Agora needs some sort of safety valve
> to escape from situations where the normal proposal system doesn't work,
> maybe after seeing it happen to B Nomic at least twice in the last year.
> I tho
On Sat, 2008-09-20 at 16:31 -0600, Ian Kelly wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 3:58 PM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I submit the following proposal (AI=3, II=1):
> >
> > Add a rule with the following text, and set its power to 3:
> > {{{
> > Any player can make arbitrary changes to th
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 3:58 PM, ais523 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I submit the following proposal (AI=3, II=1):
>
> Add a rule with the following text, and set its power to 3:
> {{{
> Any player can make arbitrary changes to the rules with 12 Support.
> }}}
>
Very strongly AGAINST.
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