Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on reward/punishment

2009-01-28 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Wed, 28 Jan 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:04 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> Um, what about an officer's weekly duties which are clearly linked >> to particular obligations? -Goethe > > You get a note for completing the weekly duties of any office, not one > per office. T

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on reward/punishment

2009-01-28 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 2:04 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Um, what about an officer's weekly duties which are clearly linked > to particular obligations? -Goethe You get a note for completing the weekly duties of any office, not one per office. The same argument applies; I'd be better off ignoring

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on reward/punishment

2009-01-27 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> Why? If the two are in the same currency (+1 note versus -2 notes), what's >> the difference for R101, which must consider any sort of penalty (note: >> "penalty" not "punishment"). If I don't ge

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on reward/punishment

2009-01-27 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Why? If the two are in the same currency (+1 note versus -2 notes), what's > the difference for R101, which must consider any sort of penalty (note: > "penalty" not "punishment"). If I don't get my note I've certainly been > penalized. The n

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on reward/punishment

2009-01-27 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Warrigal wrote: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> Having such an explanation laid out and discussed was the purpose of this >> CFJ, but you can't (or at least shouldn't) dismiss it quite so simply. > > Sorry, I was under the impression that I was agree

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on reward/punishment

2009-01-27 Thread Warrigal
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Having such an explanation laid out and discussed was the purpose of this > CFJ, but you can't (or at least shouldn't) dismiss it quite so simply. Sorry, I was under the impression that I was agreeing with you when I said that. I have nothin

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on reward/punishment

2009-01-27 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Warrigal wrote: > On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >>> Gratuitous argument: If withholding a reward for an action not >>> performed is a punishment, we're all constantly being punished for >>> doing something we are not obligated to not do. >> >> You're mis

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on reward/punishment

2009-01-27 Thread Warrigal
On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 7:23 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> Gratuitous argument: If withholding a reward for an action not >> performed is a punishment, we're all constantly being punished for >> doing something we are not obligated to not do. > > You're missing the key point that I'm not talking about

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on reward/punishment

2009-01-27 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Tue, 27 Jan 2009, Warrigal wrote: >> I CFJ on the following statement: If the Rules specify that a player is >> to receive a Note for performing a required (i.e. a SHALL) action, and e >> fails to perform it, the withholding of the Note is, for the purposes of >> R101(vi), a penalty for breaki

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on reward/punishment

2009-01-26 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 26 Jan 2009, Alex Smith wrote: > On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 11:27 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> [Been meaning to call this since Rests were enacted. Seems to be suddenly >> more pressing] >> >> I CFJ on the following statement: If the Rules specify that a player is >> to receive a Note for per

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on reward/punishment

2009-01-26 Thread Alex Smith
On Mon, 2009-01-26 at 11:27 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: > [Been meaning to call this since Rests were enacted. Seems to be suddenly > more pressing] > > I CFJ on the following statement: If the Rules specify that a player is > to receive a Note for performing a required (i.e. a SHALL) action, an