Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on knavitude

2007-08-29 Thread Ed Murphy
comex wrote: On 8/29/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: comex wrote: But it is still a quote. Quotation is an aspect of its construction, yes. That doesn't exempt it from R2149. I CFJ, barring Zefram, on the statement: A part of a message sent to a Public Forum that is quoting another m

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on knavitude

2007-08-29 Thread Zefram
comex wrote: >But it is still a quote. Quotation is an aspect of its construction, yes. That doesn't exempt it from R2149. -zefram

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on knavitude

2007-08-29 Thread comex
On 8/29/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > A "TTttPF" means that the main body is not a "mere quote". It > incorporates the quoted text into the primary context of the message, > where it is very much relevant to R2149. But it is still a quote.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on knavitude

2007-08-29 Thread Zefram
Peekee wrote: >count as a false statement but still perform the action? Difficult to say. It's not clear to me whether that actually performs the action, since the truth value of the whole is independent of whether the voting part is true or not. I'm inclined to say that a statement that takes a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on knavitude

2007-08-29 Thread Zefram
comex wrote: >actually makes it relatively easy (unfortunately) for a knave to >perform game actions anyway, or otherwise publish true statements. >For example, a TTttPF is generally accepted as performing actions even >though the main body of the message is a quote, and therefore >irrelevant to Ru

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on knavitude

2007-08-29 Thread Peekee
Would {{ I vote as follows... and 1 + 1 = 3 }} count as a false statement but still perform the action? Quoting comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On 8/29/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Prohibiting a player from posting true statements thus denies em the right to take many game actions, whi

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on knavitude

2007-08-29 Thread comex
On 8/29/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Prohibiting a player from posting true > statements thus denies em the right to take many game actions, which is > a major aspect of participation in the public forum. Gratuitous arguments: The last paragraph of 2149: Merely quoting a statement