Re: DIS: Idea: Notice and comment

2019-06-15 Thread Kerim Aydin
On 6/15/2019 8:09 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > - I really like the idea of obiter dicta, there might be a few good ways > to implement that. Thinking about this a bit more, our system really requires individual judges to set broad precedents - sticking to the narrow would really bog down the game: -

Re: DIS: Idea: Notice and comment

2019-06-15 Thread Kerim Aydin
So a few overall thoughts here. - I saw your call for a Motion, and mentally thought "I'll come back and read through the arguments before supporting" then never did. Not so much Apathy or stigma against filing, but losing track of it, in part because all the facts weren't immediately at hand.

Re: DIS: Idea: Notice and comment

2019-06-14 Thread omd
On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 6:56 PM Jason Cobb wrote: > Would such a section become precedent just as the normal part of a > judgment would, or would it be purely informational? I'd say it shouldn't need to be a separate section at all. If the comment is unavailing, then sure, tack on an sentence at

Re: DIS: Idea: Notice and comment

2019-06-14 Thread Jason Cobb
Would such a section become precedent just as the normal part of a judgment would, or would it be purely informational? Jason Cobb On 6/14/19 9:54 PM, James Cook wrote: On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 at 01:13, omd wrote: On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 5:58 PM James Cook wrote: Requiring notice and comment w

Re: DIS: Idea: Notice and comment

2019-06-14 Thread James Cook
On Sat, 15 Jun 2019 at 01:13, omd wrote: > On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 5:58 PM James Cook wrote: > > Requiring notice and comment would make it a bit more complicated and > > time-consuming to judge a CFJ, which might not make sense for simple > > ones. > > Well, most simple cases shouldn't have any

Re: DIS: Idea: Notice and comment

2019-06-14 Thread omd
On Fri, Jun 14, 2019 at 5:58 PM James Cook wrote: > Requiring notice and comment would make it a bit more complicated and > time-consuming to judge a CFJ, which might not make sense for simple > ones. Well, most simple cases shouldn't have any comments submitted, and in that case my design would

Re: DIS: Idea: Notice and comment

2019-06-14 Thread James Cook
Requiring notice and comment would make it a bit more complicated and time-consuming to judge a CFJ, which might not make sense for simple ones. How about this: * The judge assigned to a CFJ CAN publish a draft judgement, and is ENCOURAGED to do so for difficult cases. * Publishing a draft judgemen

Re: DIS: Idea: Notice and comment

2019-06-13 Thread Jason Cobb
I personally like the idea of requiring judgments to be published before becoming binding. I think that worked out well for everyone when Falsifian did something similar (although less formally, of course). You mention apathy being an issue for gathering actual arguments in response to a CFJ.

DIS: Idea: Notice and comment

2019-06-13 Thread omd
Idea: Create a Rules-defined "notice and comment" process for judgements. Since I became active, there have been two judgements in CFJs about minor scams I attempted (3728 and 3833). The first one I had a minor quibble with, so I moved for reconsideration, but nobody bothered to support it. I th