Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Criminal Punishments

2011-04-25 Thread Ed Murphy
omd wrote: > On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:26 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> omd wrote: >> >>> NoV: I violated Rule 2158 by failing to assign a judgement to CFJ 2664 ASAP. >>> I close this NoV. >>> I initiate a criminal case regarding this NoV. >>> Arguments: I am NOT GUILTY because the breach occurred more

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Criminal Punishments

2011-04-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011, ais523 wrote: > On Mon, 2011-04-25 at 17:56 -0400, Sean Hunt wrote: > > On 11-04-25 05:53 PM, omd wrote: > > As a Mao player, I'm a big fan of punishing every minor breach, by the > > way. If there was a general consensus that this is desirable, I'd be all > > for it. > >

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Criminal Punishments

2011-04-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011, omd wrote: > But we don't actually do that. I don't have statistics, but as I > recall, in practice almost all NoVs are for major offenses, and a > majority go to trial; most minor offenses (of the sort that would clog > up the courts) are not prosecuted in the first place.

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Criminal Punishments

2011-04-25 Thread ais523
On Mon, 2011-04-25 at 17:56 -0400, Sean Hunt wrote: > On 11-04-25 05:53 PM, omd wrote: > > But we don't actually do that. I don't have statistics, but as I > > recall, in practice almost all NoVs are for major offenses, and a > > majority go to trial; most minor offenses (of the sort that would cl

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Criminal Punishments

2011-04-25 Thread Sean Hunt
On 11-04-25 05:53 PM, omd wrote: But we don't actually do that. I don't have statistics, but as I recall, in practice almost all NoVs are for major offenses, and a majority go to trial; most minor offenses (of the sort that would clog up the courts) are not prosecuted in the first place. Probab

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Criminal Punishments

2011-04-25 Thread omd
On Mon, Apr 25, 2011 at 5:35 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > So, every single exchange: > "NoV: You did/didn't do X." > followed by either: > "I contest this, you missed message Y." > "Sorry, my bad." > or > "ok I admit it, no contest." But we don't actually do that. I don't have statistics, but as I r

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Criminal Punishments

2011-04-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011, omd wrote: > Proposal: NoVs suck (AI=2) > > Repeal Rule 2230 (Notices of Violation). So, every single exchange: "NoV: You did/didn't do X." followed by either: "I contest this, you missed message Y." "Sorry, my bad." or "ok I admit it, no contest." would have to go to cri

Re: DIS: Criminal Punishments

2011-04-25 Thread Charles Walker
On 25 April 2011 21:32, Aaron Goldfein wrote: > The punishments for NoVs are ridiculously small. Points=class of crime? > That's absurd. Some of the worst crimes in Agora will only lose you 6 > points, which is practically what you gain for judging one CFJ. I'm all for > punishing players by takin

DIS: Criminal Punishments

2011-04-25 Thread Aaron Goldfein
The punishments for NoVs are ridiculously small. Points=class of crime? That's absurd. Some of the worst crimes in Agora will only lose you 6 points, which is practically what you gain for judging one CFJ. I'm all for punishing players by taking away their points, but I think the punishments should