Re: DIS: [proto] Fix zombie auctions

2020-02-29 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 at 17:30, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 at 12:26, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion > wrote: > > Proto: Amend the paragraph in question to: > > > >The winner of the lot SHALL, in a timely fashion, pay a fee (the > >number of the

Re: DIS: [proto] Fix zombie auctions

2020-02-29 Thread Timon Walshe-Grey via agora-discussion
Jason wrote: > Perhaps relevant: CFJ 3762 [0], which concluded both that a person CAN > perform a certain action and that that action is IMPOSSIBLE. Warrigal wrote: > My interpretation of the Honorable twg's ruling is that since the > rules say that the action CAN be taken, but the criteria for ta

Re: DIS: [proto] Fix zombie auctions

2020-02-23 Thread Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
On Sun, 23 Feb 2020 at 12:26, Edward Murphy via agora-discussion wrote: > Proto: Amend the paragraph in question to: > >The winner of the lot SHALL, in a timely fashion, pay a fee (the >number of the Auction's currency equal to eir bid) to the >Auctioneer in order to satisf

Re: DIS: [proto] Fix zombie auctions

2020-02-23 Thread Edward Murphy via agora-discussion
G. wrote: On 2/18/2020 11:56 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: On 2/18/20 2:00 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: On 2/18/2020 10:45 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: For the purpose of such a auction, to transfer a zombie to a player is to set that zo

Re: DIS: [proto] Fix zombie auctions

2020-02-19 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Wed, 19 Feb 2020 at 04:15, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote: > On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 at 16:28, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion > wrote: > > Actually, I think "at will" is a very broken concept here. The point of > > it in R2551 is to allow the transfer of assets that a player CAN transfe

Re: DIS: [proto] Fix zombie auctions

2020-02-18 Thread Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 at 16:28, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > Actually, I think "at will" is a very broken concept here. The point of > it in R2551 is to allow the transfer of assets that a player CAN transfer > however e likes anyway. However, the whole point of zombie security is > t

Re: DIS: [proto] Fix zombie auctions

2020-02-18 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 2/18/2020 11:56 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 2/18/20 2:00 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 2/18/2020 10:45 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: >>> For the purpose of such a auction, to transfer a zombie to a >>> player is to set that zombi

Re: DIS: [proto] Fix zombie auctions

2020-02-18 Thread Tanner Swett via agora-discussion
On Tue, Feb 18, 2020 at 2:55 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > Perhaps relevant: CFJ 3762 [0], which concluded both that a person CAN > perform a certain action and that that action is IMPOSSIBLE. > > [0]: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3762 H. I feel like that ca

Re: DIS: [proto] Fix zombie auctions

2020-02-18 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 2/18/20 2:00 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 2/18/2020 10:45 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: >> For the purpose of such a auction, to transfer a zombie to a >> player is to set that zombie's master switch to that player, and >> Agora CAN transfer zom

Re: DIS: [proto] Fix zombie auctions

2020-02-18 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 2/18/20 2:49 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 2/18/2020 11:43 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: >> On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 at 19:04, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion >> wrote: >>> On 2/18/2020 10:45 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: For the purpose of

Re: DIS: [proto] Fix zombie auctions

2020-02-18 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 2/18/2020 11:43 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 at 19:04, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion > wrote: >> On 2/18/2020 10:45 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: >>> For the purpose of such a auction, to transfer a zombie to a >>> player is to

Re: DIS: [proto] Fix zombie auctions

2020-02-18 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
> For the purpose of such a auction, Agora CAN transfer zombies at > will, and when Agora would transfer a zombie to a player, this > rule sets the zombie's master switch to that player. > > - Falsifian Does R2125 mean that I need to state an explicit mechanism here? E.g. "this r

Re: DIS: [proto] Fix zombie auctions

2020-02-18 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Tue, 18 Feb 2020 at 19:04, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 2/18/2020 10:45 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > > For the purpose of such a auction, to transfer a zombie to a > > player is to set that zombie's master switch to that player, and > > Agora CA

Re: DIS: [proto] Fix zombie auctions

2020-02-18 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 2/18/2020 10:45 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > For the purpose of such a auction, to transfer a zombie to a > player is to set that zombie's master switch to that player, and > Agora CAN transfer zombies by willing it to be done. Did I miss a new definition of

Re: DIS: [proto] Fix zombie auctions

2020-02-18 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sat, 15 Feb 2020 at 17:07, Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion wrote: > On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 14:04, James Cook via agora-discussion > wrote: > > As I pointed out in response to Murphy's "Fix Auctions" proposal, I > > don't think it works, because master is secured at power 2. > > > > How about

Re: DIS: [proto] Fix zombie auctions

2020-02-15 Thread Alexis Hunt via agora-discussion
On Fri, 14 Feb 2020 at 14:04, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > As I pointed out in response to Murphy's "Fix Auctions" proposal, I > don't think it works, because master is secured at power 2. > > How about this one? Still no mechanism by which Agora does it.

DIS: [proto] Fix zombie auctions

2020-02-14 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
As I pointed out in response to Murphy's "Fix Auctions" proposal, I don't think it works, because master is secured at power 2. How about this one? Title: Auction promotion AI: 2 Chamber: Economy [Comment: It's awkward to have a power-2 rule (Zombie Auctions) defer to the power-1 auction rules