Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Archival disclosure

2020-06-21 Thread omd via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 8:45 PM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > My understanding is that this is an intentional noncomformance on the part > of mailman. As far as I can recall, it's not a bug. They just decided to > ignore the standard. There are scripts that will transform it to stand

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Archival disclosure

2020-06-21 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Thu, Sep 28, 2017 at 1:30 AM Owen Jacobson wrote: > On Sep 28, 2017, at 4:15 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > > > If you're subscribed to the Agora lists (and I'm pretty sure you are), > > you should also be able to log in to the archive here: > >

Re: DIS: How to keep up

2020-06-21 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/21/20 10:25 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/21/20 10:16 PM, Zyborg Mao via agora-discussion wrote: >> I just signed up and already have 50+ messages. I'm not sure how to deal >> with this. Any hints/tips? > Read everything in agora-official, most things in agora-business (unless > i

Re: DIS: How to keep up

2020-06-21 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/21/20 10:16 PM, Zyborg Mao via agora-discussion wrote: > I just signed up and already have 50+ messages. I'm not sure how to deal > with this. Any hints/tips? Read everything in agora-official, most things in agora-business (unless it's about a contract or something you're not involved in),

Re: DIS: How to keep up

2020-06-21 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
most of the messages are boring and worthless and just going through the motions. try to ignore everything in A-D, just check important stuff on A-B like proposals and contracts and things like that, thats where actual gameplay happens. Also join this discord: https://discord.gg/FwmJW8 and we will

DIS: Re: BUS: Put the discord on the agora home page

2020-06-21 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
https://discord.gg/FwmJW8 On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 1:12 PM Rebecca via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > See title > > Also all should join it, it has been a fun and very active atmosphere, > although too small. > > -- > From R. Lee > -- >From R. Lee

DIS: How to keep up

2020-06-21 Thread Zyborg Mao via agora-discussion
I just signed up and already have 50+ messages. I'm not sure how to deal with this. Any hints/tips?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: TRIGON

2020-06-21 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
call a cfj On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 12:58 PM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 2020-06-21 20:55, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: > > Construe this message as extending Trigon's latest public message. > > > > I, Trigon, transfer 20 coins to Jason

DIS: Re: BUS: TRIGON

2020-06-21 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 2020-06-21 20:55, Jason Cobb via agora-business wrote: Construe this message as extending Trigon's latest public message. I, Trigon, transfer 20 coins to Jason. I note that the Subject of this message is "BUS: TRIGON" and not "TRIGON" -- Trigon transfer Jason one coin nch was here I hereb

DIS: Re: OFF: [ADOP] Metareport Revision 1

2020-06-21 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
The below document is my revised Metareport (ADoP weekly) valid as of 4:12 am UTC on the 21st of June 2020. The only difference is that Aris is correctly listed as Prime Minister. =Metareport= > > This is the ADoP’s weekly report > > Date of last report: 2020-06-13 > > Date of this report:

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Promise] Treasure

2020-06-21 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/21/20 10:32 PM, omd via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 7:23 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion > wrote: >> I believe this fails because promises cannot possess promises > Why not? Promises can only be possessed by Agora, players, contracts, and the Library. A promise is n

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Promise] Treasure

2020-06-21 Thread omd via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 7:23 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > I believe this fails because promises cannot possess promises Why not?

DIS: Re: BUS: [Promise] Treasure

2020-06-21 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/21/20 10:21 PM, omd via agora-business wrote: > I grant myself a promise with the text "I pay 200 coins to the bearer". > > I transfer that promise to itself. I believe this fails because promises cannot possess promises, and because of R2576: > Each asset has exactly one owner. If an

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Contract] Agoran officer monetizes signature

2020-06-21 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 2020-06-21 20:04, nch via agora-discussion wrote: I transfer 3 coins to SEAMSTRESS and specify the text "don't... trust... the dragon..." I approve this signature suggestion, transferring 3 coins to myself. -- Trigon transfer Jason one coin nch was here I hereby don't... trust... the drago

DIS: Re: BUS: is this too morbid?

2020-06-21 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/cases/?3411 On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 12:00 PM ATMunn via agora-business < agora-busin...@agoranomic.org> wrote: > I feel like I vaguely recall this being discussed at some point > previously, but I thought I would go for it anyways. > > I initiate a Call

DIS: Re: BUS: [Contract] Agoran officer monetizes signature

2020-06-21 Thread nch via agora-discussion
I transfer 3 coins to SEAMSTRESS and specify the text "don't... trust... the dragon..." -- nch Prime Minister, Webmastor, NAX Exchange Manager

Re: DIS: [Proto] Powerful Contracts

2020-06-21 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
this proposal is fine except it better not ues the word "power" On Mon, Jun 22, 2020 at 11:50 AM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On 2020-06-21 19:45, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 6/21/20 9:42 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wr

Re: DIS: [Proto] Powerful Contracts

2020-06-21 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 2020-06-21 19:45, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: On 6/21/20 9:42 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: And that's a problem because...? If players consent to such a contract, they obviously must be getting something out of it. That shouldn't even prevent other contracts/player

Re: DIS: [Proto] Powerful Contracts

2020-06-21 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/21/20 9:48 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 6:40 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion > wrote: >> On 6/21/20 9:38 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >>> Powerful Contracts >>> >>> Power Target is a player switch tracked by the Notary with the potential >>

Re: DIS: [Proto] Powerful Contracts

2020-06-21 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 6:40 PM Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 6/21/20 9:38 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > > Powerful Contracts > > > > Power Target is a player switch tracked by the Notary with the potential > > values None (the default), and any Contract. A player CAN flip

Re: DIS: [Proto] Powerful Contracts

2020-06-21 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/21/20 9:42 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > On 2020-06-21 19:40, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 6/21/20 9:38 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: >>> Powerful Contracts >>> >>> Power Target is a player switch tracked by the Notary with the potential >>> values None

Re: DIS: [Proto] Powerful Contracts

2020-06-21 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
On 2020-06-21 19:40, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: On 6/21/20 9:38 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: Powerful Contracts Power Target is a player switch tracked by the Notary with the potential values None (the default), and any Contract. A player CAN flip eir Power Target (empower) b

Re: DIS: [Proto] Powerful Contracts

2020-06-21 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/21/20 9:38 PM, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > Powerful Contracts > > Power Target is a player switch tracked by the Notary with the potential > values None (the default), and any Contract. A player CAN flip eir Power > Target (empower) by announcement once a week. > > If their is a single c

DIS: [Proto] Powerful Contracts

2020-06-21 Thread nch via agora-discussion
Powerful Contracts Power Target is a player switch tracked by the Notary with the potential values None (the default), and any Contract. A player CAN flip eir Power Target (empower) by announcement once a week. If their is a single contract that is the value of at least 5 Power Target switches an

[attn. Treasuror] Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Fine, I destroy "Combinotron"

2020-06-21 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
Not sure flagging in the message body helps that much. As a loyal member of LoAFER, I flagged it in the subject line for you. :) On 6/21/2020 9:03 PM, Rebecca via agora-business wrote: I resolve these intents. Attn treasuror On Tue, Jun 16, 2020 at 11:02 AM Rebecca wrote: Once again, I inte

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8442-8457

2020-06-21 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/21/20 9:25 PM, Rebecca via agora-discussion wrote: > I vote like this (despite the large number of AGAINST votes, I am voting > genuinely) Said R. Lee, to the discussion forum. -- Jason Cobb

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8442-8457

2020-06-21 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
I vote like this (despite the large number of AGAINST votes, I am voting genuinely) ID Author(s)AITitle --- 8442e G. 1.0 Barrel Barrel Badger Barrel AGAINST 8443f G.

DIS: Re: BUS: [Contract] Agoran officer monetizes signature

2020-06-21 Thread ATMunn via agora-discussion
On 6/21/2020 7:16 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-business wrote: I consent to the below contract (sorry Notary). it's really fine, I joke about being overwhelmed but now that I've gotten caught up it's really not that hard to just copy and paste stuff, which is pretty much all my job is -- ATM

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Action Is better than words

2020-06-21 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 at 20:13, nch via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/20/20 8:47 PM, Rebecca via agora-business wrote: > > Therefore, please join this discord server I made > > https://discord.gg/UGxm3v > > > > Tell me what channels you want all up in there and stuff > > -- > > From R. Lee > > Jus

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Leaving or something like that

2020-06-21 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sat, 20 Jun 2020 at 22:02, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/20/2020 2:55 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > I don't think we need continuity/historicity on every card transfer, and > > the only reason for some of the other reports to have timestamped > > documents (e.g. Treasuror) is to h

DIS: Re: BUS: [Contract] Agoran officer monetizes signature

2020-06-21 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/21/20 7:16 PM, Reuben Staley via agora-business wrote: > I consent to the below contract (sorry Notary). > > - > Signature Enthusiast Allows Modification of Signature Through Rigorous > Exchanging of Signature Suggestions > > Players can join and leave this contract at any time. > > Any

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8442-8457

2020-06-21 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/21/2020 2:30 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > Like I said, I'm not upset, just... mildly frustrated. Could you attempt to > get your feedback in somewhat earlier in the process next time? I know the > lists have been really busy lately, but this has been up for discussion for

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8442-8457

2020-06-21 Thread Aris Merchant via agora-discussion
On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 2:16 PM Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > On 6/21/2020 2:11 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > >> 8448* Aris, Alexis, Falsifian 3.0 Populist Administration > > AGAINST. I think it's very important that elections clear the regulatory >

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8442-8457

2020-06-21 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/21/20 5:14 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 6/21/2020 2:11 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >>> 8448* Aris, Alexis, Falsifian 3.0 Populist Administration >> AGAINST. I think it's very important that elections clear the regulatory >> slate for incoming officers (or at least let th

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3853 Judged True

2020-06-21 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/21/20 4:11 PM, nch via agora-business wrote: > On 6/20/20 9:37 AM, nch via agora-business wrote: >> ===  CFJ 3853 === >> >>  Within the past week, Jason committed the crime of Uncertain >>  Certification. >> >> ===

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 8442-8457

2020-06-21 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/21/2020 2:11 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> 8448* Aris, Alexis, Falsifian 3.0 Populist Administration > AGAINST. I think it's very important that elections clear the regulatory > slate for incoming officers (or at least let the incoming officer clear > the slate). This current version could

Re: [Poll] A chat client for Agora (was Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Leaving or something like that)

2020-06-21 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
For someone whose daily driver is a 2008 laptop from a now-defunct company, bridges are great for me since IRC clients are generally lower-power than Discord's web interface. -- Trigon currently on a phone On Sun, Jun 21, 2020, 14:16 nch via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wr

Re: [Poll] A chat client for Agora (was Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Leaving or something like that)

2020-06-21 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/21/20 3:00 PM, omd via agora-discussion wrote: > So we could set up a Discord community and then bridge it with IRC. > This can sometimes have awkward results [1], but from what I've heard > it basically works. I've been on discords that have IRC/Discord bridges, and they seem perfectly serv

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Weekly Report

2020-06-21 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/21/20 4:08 PM, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > > On 6/21/2020 1:05 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> >> On 6/21/2020 12:45 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: >>> -5 Falsifian <= HONOURLESS WORM >> >> 1. This ain't right. > > Erm, since I just sent the above to Business for the N

DIS: Re: BUS: Action Is better than words

2020-06-21 Thread nch via agora-discussion
On 6/20/20 8:47 PM, Rebecca via agora-business wrote: > Therefore, please join this discord server I made > https://discord.gg/UGxm3v > > Tell me what channels you want all up in there and stuff > -- > From R. Lee Just wanted to point out since this isn't obvious on the list: 6 of us joined last

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Weekly Report

2020-06-21 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/21/2020 12:49 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > On 6/21/20 3:45 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: >> Herald's Weekly report >> >> Date of Last Report: 14 June 2020 >> Date of This Report: 21 June 2020 >> >> Karma Entity >> - -- >> >> <= SHOGU

Re: [Poll] A chat client for Agora (was Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Leaving or something like that)

2020-06-21 Thread omd via agora-discussion
On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 3:24 PM Reuben Staley via agora-discussion wrote: > So here comes the poll part: what does everyone think about a chat client? > IRC or Discord? Something open like Matrix? There are lots of options here. > What's the call? In addition to Matrix, open source options includ

DIS: Re: OFF: [Herald] Weekly Report

2020-06-21 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/21/20 3:45 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > Herald's Weekly report > > Date of Last Report: 14 June 2020 > Date of This Report: 21 June 2020 > > Karma Entity > - -- > > <= SHOGUN > > +6 Jason > +6 Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > +5 Ar

DIS: Re: OFF: [Referee] Crime and Punishment

2020-06-21 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
On 6/21/20 3:51 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > >               Crime and Punishment (Referee's Weekly Report) > > > Date of this report: 2

Reports as snapshots of fixed time (was: Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [proposal] let's just match the promotor's reality shall we)

2020-06-21 Thread Reuben Staley via agora-discussion
Treasuror checking in. I feel like I should comment early on this thread as this change would affect my office a lot. -- Trigon currently on a phone On Sun, Jun 21, 2020, 12:16 Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > > Should we do it with other reports too?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [proposal] let's just match the promotor's reality shall we

2020-06-21 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/21/2020 10:11 AM, James Cook via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 at 15:52, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> [This confuses everyone regularly, except Aris. Let's just make it clear] >> >> I submit the following proposal "no backdating needed", AI-3: >> >>

DIS: Re: BUS: [proposal] let's just match the promotor's reality shall we

2020-06-21 Thread James Cook via agora-discussion
On Sun, 21 Jun 2020 at 15:52, Kerim Aydin via agora-business wrote: > [This confuses everyone regularly, except Aris. Let's just make it clear] > > I submit the following proposal "no backdating needed", AI-3: > > > > Amend

Re: DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2020-06-21 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/21/20 11:46 AM, Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion wrote: > > On 6/21/2020 8:33 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: >> On 6/21/20 2:16 AM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: >>> Here's my draft report. It's been a completely exhausting day in a >>> busy week, so the chance of error

Re: DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2020-06-21 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/21/2020 8:33 AM, Jason Cobb via agora-discussion wrote: > On 6/21/20 2:16 AM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: >> Here's my draft report. It's been a completely exhausting day in a >> busy week, so the chance of errors here are higher than normal. > > That's alright! You certainly

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2020-06-21 Thread Kerim Aydin via agora-discussion
On 6/20/2020 11:32 PM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 11:25 PM Rebecca wrote: >> >> Welcome! My advice is just do stuff when you feel like it, no need to read >> every message, rule or CFJ > > I on the other hand would advise reading all of the rules and > me

Re: DIS: [Promotor] Draft

2020-06-21 Thread Jason Cobb via agora-discussion
On 6/21/20 2:16 AM, Aris Merchant via agora-discussion wrote: > Here's my draft report. It's been a completely exhausting day in a > busy week, so the chance of errors here are higher than normal. That's alright! You certainly have one of the hardest jobs available here. > > -Aris > --- > I here

Re: DIS: A logo for Agora

2020-06-21 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus via agora-discussion
If you are referring to the ones that Jason noticed had been omitted, then yes; otherwise, I’ll need more information. > On Jun 20, 2020, at 23:44, Rebecca via agora-discussion > wrote: > > PSS this is kind of unrelated (but related to herald) but your last report > omitted some hard labor ti

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Registration

2020-06-21 Thread Rebecca via agora-discussion
interesting, i think the moral of the story is that reading is for suckers On Sun, Jun 21, 2020 at 4:33 PM Aris Merchant via agora-discussion < agora-discussion@agoranomic.org> wrote: > On Sat, Jun 20, 2020 at 11:25 PM Rebecca via agora-discussion > wrote: > > > > Welcome! My advice is just do s