Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We must have standards! (Order in the court)

2016-10-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 23 Oct 2016, Aris Merchant wrote: > (See American Bar Association model code of judicial conduct...) Sorry, Your Honor, I was on the wrong continent. (where's that Map of Agora when you need it...)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We must have standards! (Order in the court)

2016-10-23 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 9:26 PM, ais523 wrote: > > If you follow the guidelines used by the construction rules used for > the rest of Spivak, I guess the appropriate gender-neutral, sentience- > neutral title would be "Messr.". Duly noted. I didn't know that Spivak extended that far. I was assu

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We must have standards! (Order in the court)

2016-10-23 Thread ais523
On Sun, 2016-10-23 at 21:15 -0700, Aris Merchant wrote: > Very well, Mr. (Used by standard english sarcastic convention) Humble > Scribe of the Court. If you follow the guidelines used by the construction rules used for the rest of Spivak, I guess the appropriate gender-neutral, sentience- neutral

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We must have standards! (Order in the court)

2016-10-23 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sunday, October 23, 2016, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Milud, if I may say so with respect as the Humble Scribe of the Court, > Milud, it is not atypical (that is, it sometimes happens, Milud) that a > person makes judicial arguments that include an assertion that "this > argument shows that somethi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Maybe the ADoP] Elections

2016-10-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
Aris wrote: > I support the quoted intention. Alexis wrote: > I support and do so. I am honored by your Support and promise to be a Speaker for *all* Agorans.

DIS: Re: BUS: We must have standards! (Order in the court)

2016-10-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 23 Oct 2016, Aris Merchant wrote: > 2. E has attempted to create a proposal, not only during an open case, > but IN EIR ARGUMENTS. By doing so, e has shown insufficient respect for > these proceedings. E is expected to limit eir arguments to matters > related to the case, and to refrai

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Maybe the ADoP] Elections

2016-10-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 24 Oct 2016, ais523 wrote: > Incidentally, anyone feel worthy of the Speaker role? AFAIR, nobody's > won recently and as such it's mostly up for grabs. I'd be willing to > appoint someone else into the position, if they make a viable pitch. I would like the promotion to figurehead. My

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Maybe the ADoP] Elections

2016-10-23 Thread Alexis Hunt
On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 11:13 PM ais523 wrote: > On Sun, 2016-10-23 at 22:53 +0200, Luis Ressel wrote: > > I initiate an election for the ADoP. > > > > I initiate an Agoran decision to determine the new ADoP. For this > > decision, the vote collector is the ADoP and the valid options are the > >

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Maybe the ADoP] Elections

2016-10-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 23 Oct 2016, Luis Ressel wrote: > I vote [aranea, G.]. If anyone makes a compelling case why e should be > Prime Minister, I will add them in front of my current vote list. I think I should be term-limited out of this one. (and saving my vote for now :) ). -G.

DIS: Re: BUS: now to clear this up

2016-10-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Mon, 24 Oct 2016, Alexis Hunt wrote: > Arguments intermixed with quoted text. Oh, that's right, the other thing I had meant to do on case assignment is go back and include your previous arguments; apologies for not doing so, your response here will be added as gratuitous arguments in the cas

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3462 assigned to Aris

2016-10-23 Thread ais523
On Sun, 2016-10-23 at 18:39 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > By the way, if you find areana failed in eir duty, it's ok to extend > your  > arguments to the further question of Alexis's scam versus my counter- > scam.  While you can't opine officially, if your arguments are persuasive,  > we've been kno

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3462 assigned to Aris

2016-10-23 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Sun, 23 Oct 2016, Aris Merchant wrote: > (Blushes) Oops again. I checked the ADoP's report this time, honest, but I > think I miss-read it. Sorry. I'd thought it was... > Someone who hadn't been that active lately. Sorry, if I'd known it was you I > just would have left it. Just curious, why

DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3462 assigned to Aris

2016-10-23 Thread Aris Merchant
(Blushes) Oops again. I checked the ADoP's report this time, honest, but I think I miss-read it. Sorry. I'd thought it was... Someone who hadn't been that active lately. Sorry, if I'd known it was you I just would have left it. Just curious, why didn't you assign it sooner? -Aris

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Let's clean up the ADoP mess

2016-10-23 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sunday, October 23, 2016, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > If my proposal gets distributed, I won't have a reason to continue trying > to hold ADoP. Though I should add that my general inclination is not to fix > things with ratification. > > -Alexis > You'll be seeing my solution to this whole buisness

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Let's clean up the ADoP mess

2016-10-23 Thread Alexis Hunt
On Sun, Oct 23, 2016 at 8:17 PM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sunday, October 23, 2016, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > > I object, because ratifying that would ruin my scam (if it indeed > succeeded). > > -Alexis > > How are we going to deal with this then? Have ever

DIS: Re: BUS: Let's clean up the ADoP mess

2016-10-23 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sunday, October 23, 2016, Alexis Hunt wrote: > > > I object, because ratifying that would ruin my scam (if it indeed > succeeded). > > -Alexis > How are we going to deal with this then? Have everyone approve everything? We need to get this CFJ over with. -Aris

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Maybe the ADoP] Elections

2016-10-23 Thread Luis Ressel
On Sun, 23 Oct 2016 23:13:43 +0200 Luis Ressel wrote: > I vote [aranea, G.]. If anyone makes a compelling case why e should be > Prime Minister, I will add them in front of my current vote list. Nothing good comes of it when I try to use the Spivak pronouns. Please excuse the inconsistency :) -

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Promotor election

2016-10-23 Thread Luis Ressel
On Sat, 22 Oct 2016 23:50:33 +0100 ais523 wrote: > On Sat, 2016-10-22 at 12:10 -0700, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Other note:  A fair thing to do would be to hold an election.  But  > > election for ADoP is resolved by ADoP - a problem!  We actually  > > used to have "separation of powers" for this, s

BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [ADoP] Promotor election

2016-10-23 Thread Aris Merchant
On Sat, Oct 22, 2016 at 3:50 PM, ais523 > wrote: > > This kind-of implies it should be the Promotor who resolves an ADoP > election, except that that doesn't really make logical sense. Perhaps > it should be resolved by the Assessor (who's already used to resolving > elections), or by the Prime Mi

Re: DIS: Ideas from a bastion of democracy

2016-10-23 Thread Aris Merchant
On Thursday, October 20, 2016, Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Thursday, October 20, 2016, Kerim Aydin > wrote: > >> >> >> I'll see how it looks for the next report, though if anyone wants to do >> it for themselves (to choose the order and grammar) I'll take t