Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (Mis)Applying My Linguistics Skills

2014-02-14 Thread omd
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 6:43 PM, Nicholas Evans wrote: > Otherwise, I see no reason that a dog-machine combination shouldn't be > allowed to play, though I doubt they would do much. We really need a quote book... :)

DIS: Re: BUS: Who's a good girl, then?

2014-02-14 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2014-02-14 at 15:59 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I transfer an 'i' to Lilly. > > (This is actually non-controversial; operator ownership isn't limited to > players or persons). Isn't it slightly controversial, in that there's currently no proof generally available to Agorans that Lilly exi

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: (Mis)Applying My Linguistics Skills

2014-02-14 Thread Nicholas Evans
On 2/12/2014 12:46 PM, omd wrote: On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 9:42 AM, Nich Del Evans wrote: I also agree that they can imitate recursion to an even more limited extent. Well, if a computer program can manage to parse a deeply nested sentence, I expect it could proceed to manipulate it with far m

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Speaker] CFJ 3402 assigned to ais523

2014-02-14 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014, omd wrote: > Yep! But it matters if I submit her as a co-author for a proposal, as > it determines whether the Promotor and Rulekeepor must mention her, so > there. (Of course that's arguably UNDETERMINED since I have not > provided any proof that she exists...) Huh. Is c

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Speaker] CFJ 3402 assigned to ais523

2014-02-14 Thread omd
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > Let's say a human started sending messages to the board in a language > that no-one else here recognized, or said "this is an obscure dialect > of Navajo" but didn't offer any other translations. At least one CFJ > found that this would fail t

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: help wanted

2014-02-14 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > Thanks for the confidence, but not now. Ask me again in two months, > when the theatre group I'm in has finished this year's production. Break a leg!!

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Speaker] CFJ 3402 assigned to ais523

2014-02-14 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014, omd wrote: > On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > I think that there's a past precedent or two it's important to consider > > whom you can communicate to as part of "communication". For example, > > code or slang (AGAINT) is only communication if the "Rea

DIS: Re: BUS: help wanted

2014-02-14 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
On 14 February 2014 18:37, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Now that things are really picking up, I'd love it if someone > out there would be willing to do Promotor so I can keep the > Herald's game and CFJs up to date. > > I don't mind being assessor but if someone wants that, more than > happy to give

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Speaker] CFJ 3402 assigned to ais523

2014-02-14 Thread omd
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 3:18 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > I think that there's a past precedent or two it's important to consider > whom you can communicate to as part of "communication". For example, > code or slang (AGAINT) is only communication if the "Reasonable Agoran" > (or if things have to be

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Speaker] CFJ 3402 assigned to ais523

2014-02-14 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 14 Feb 2014, Alex Smith wrote: > So I'd say that Lilly's communication is not capable of communicating > anything that's outside the experience of the human or other entity e's > communicating with. There's something lacking in this sort of > communication that seems to fail to meet the s

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Speaker] CFJ 3400 assigned to woggle

2014-02-14 Thread woggle
On 2/13/14, 5:06 , Fool wrote: >> Even if we were to interpret "win the game" as requiring gameplay to >> otherwise >> cease, this action would be beyond the power of the Power-1 Rule 2419. Much >> of >> Agora's gameplay is defined at Power > 1 and the rules allowing such gameplay >> to continue