Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Act V

2009-02-13 Thread Benjamin Caplan
Alex Smith wrote: > On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 12:22 -0600, Benjamin Caplan wrote: >> Kerim Aydin wrote: >> > I've thought about changing this before. When you win and you're already >> > on the list, what's the most balanced: >> > >> I proto-vote for 2. > > That would mean that winning a lot would k

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Act V

2009-02-13 Thread Sgeo
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 10:37 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 17:28 -0500, Sgeo wrote: >> comex gains the Patent Title of Champion, for Winning by Junta. comex >> gains the Patent Title of Minister without Portfolio. The title of >> Minister without Portfolio is administratively revo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Act V

2009-02-13 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 12:22 -0600, Benjamin Caplan wrote: > Kerim Aydin wrote: > > I've thought about changing this before. When you win and you're already > > on the list, what's the most balanced: > > > > 1. Current; > > 2. Setting award date to new win date (back to bottom on list). > > 3.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Act V

2009-02-13 Thread Benjamin Caplan
Kerim Aydin wrote: > I've thought about changing this before. When you win and you're already > on the list, what's the most balanced: > > 1. Current; > 2. Setting award date to new win date (back to bottom on list). > 3. Adding name a second time; > a. Allowed to hold two prerogatives; >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: What is a proposal, anyway?

2009-02-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009, Alex Smith wrote: > To put it another way, when there's debate about the natural-language > meaning of "proposal" (or "document" in the definition of "proposal"), > rule 754(4) is what determines what the word means. It takes the > natural-language definition, except that lowe

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Act V

2009-02-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009, Alex Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 17:28 -0500, Sgeo wrote: >> comex gains the Patent Title of Champion, for Winning by Junta. comex >> gains the Patent Title of Minister without Portfolio. The title of >> Minister without Portfolio is administratively revoked from ais5

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Act V

2009-02-13 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Fri, 13 Feb 2009, Alex Smith wrote: > On another note, it's rather confusing to have some sorts of wins which > need Win Announcements, and some sorts of wins which don't. Maybe we > should orthogonalize it? Well I was confused, so probably. -G.

Re: DIS: RE: BUS: A scam

2009-02-13 Thread Benjamin Caplan
Alex Smith wrote: > On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 10:07 -0600, Benjamin Caplan wrote: >> > Pavitra wrote: >> >> I CFJ on the statement: "Warrigal CAN deregister." >> > I think the CFJ is a pretty clear TRUE, because I think Warrigal didn't > cause emself to fail to be a player when e attempted to deregist

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Act V

2009-02-13 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 18:55 -0500, comex wrote: > On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 6:51 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > Seems to be a part of Zefram's mass generalizations. Although even > > with the distinction, when something ceases to be a rule, it pretty > > much no longer exists in legal Agoran terms (at

Re: DIS: RE: BUS: A scam

2009-02-13 Thread Alex Smith
On Fri, 2009-02-13 at 10:07 -0600, Benjamin Caplan wrote: > Alexander Smith wrote: > > Pavitra wrote: > >> In fact, I think I can get a Win by Paradox out of this. I CFJ on the > >> statement: "Warrigal CAN deregister." I believe that eir citizenship > >> cannot be determined, and so (since players

Re: DIS: RE: BUS: A scam

2009-02-13 Thread Benjamin Caplan
Alexander Smith wrote: > Pavitra wrote: >> In fact, I think I can get a Win by Paradox out of this. I CFJ on the >> statement: "Warrigal CAN deregister." I believe that eir citizenship >> cannot be determined, and so (since players unambiguously CAN >> deregister, while non-players clearly CANNOT)

DIS: RE: BUS: A scam

2009-02-13 Thread Alexander Smith
Pavitra wrote: > In fact, I think I can get a Win by Paradox out of this. I CFJ on the > statement: "Warrigal CAN deregister." I believe that eir citizenship > cannot be determined, and so (since players unambiguously CAN > deregister, while non-players clearly CANNOT) it is not possible to > deter

DIS: Re: BUS: Act V

2009-02-13 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 17:28 -0500, Sgeo wrote: > comex gains the Patent Title of Champion, for Winning by Junta. comex > gains the Patent Title of Minister without Portfolio. The title of > Minister without Portfolio is administratively revoked from ais523 and > e loses eir Speakership. Pavitra is

DIS: Re: BUS: Act V

2009-02-13 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 10:30 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, comex wrote: > > I win by Junta. > > You'll probably kill me for this, but even if it worked, you'll > probably have to CFJ on whether this was a win announcement. It wasn't a win announcement, but Junta doesn't need on

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: What is a proposal, anyway?

2009-02-13 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2009-02-12 at 08:11 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: > On Thu, 12 Feb 2009, Alex Smith wrote: > > Hmm... there are probably far more than two interpretations of what's > > going on, just as in the previous one-hit wonders scam. I think it may > > be a good step to identify what exactly they are. >

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ

2009-02-13 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 7:02 PM, comex wrote: > As the existence of the contestmaster attribute does not depend on the > contract, dependent actions whose effects would include changing a > contest's contestmaster are not possible. Contestmaster is a contract switch. Of course its existence depe

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ

2009-02-13 Thread comex
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 10:02 PM, Warrigal wrote: > Gratuitous arguments: rule 2136 authorizes this to happen whether or > not 1728 does. It allows the contestmaster to be changed when the mechanism (of a dependent action) succeeds; however, R1728 does not allow it to succeed.

DIS: Re: BUS: A scam

2009-02-13 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 10:12 PM, Warrigal wrote: > I cease to play by invoking Rule 101(vii). I register. > > I CFJ on the statement "I am a player". Dubious arguments: I > deregistered, but not by announcement; therefore, the 30-day time > limit does not apply. I CFJ on the statement "I am a par