DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: That trick only works once

2009-02-05 Thread Benjamin Schultz
On Feb 5, 2009, at 3:28 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: Proposal: That trick only works once (AI = 2, please) Amend Rule 2211 (The Grand Poobah) by inserting this text before section b->c): a->b) While there is more than one Alpha, flip an Alpha's caste to Beta I'm mildl

DIS: Draft: Reset Savages

2009-02-05 Thread Benjamin Schultz
DRAFT - There's no reason to keep people in Savage longer than necessary. Amend R2211 by changing the sentence "At the beginning of each month, each Alpha's caste is flipped to eir default value." to read: "At the beginning of each month, the caste of each Savage who was a Savage fo

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Support and voting

2009-02-05 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: > The AFO should notice that you aren't an eligible voter on them, just as > it should notice that Wooble was only Beta not Alpha at the start of the > voting period. I did, but only because e voted before eir caste was increased. I need to revise the database to retain a dated his

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Support and voting

2009-02-05 Thread Ed Murphy
Tiger wrote: > Ah. Then I don't think I'm an eligible voter for any of the proposals > I have voted on. Should I say something in Business about this, or > just leave it be and just see them not being counted? The latter is fine; in practice, I've been controlling the AFO for the purpose of count

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Support and voting

2009-02-05 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > Murphy wrote: >> Tiger wrote: >> >>> I also vote FOR x2 the proposal in question. >>> >>> (If this message causes the proposal to become democrating, and so >>> decreasing my voting limit to 1, the above papragraph is void and I >>> instead vote FOR x1)

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Support and voting

2009-02-05 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 21:57 +0100, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > Murphy wrote: > >Tiger wrote: > > > >> I also vote FOR x2 the proposal in question. > >> > >> (If this message causes the proposal to become democrating, and so > >> decreasing my voting limit to 1, the above papragraph is void and I > >>

DIS: Re: BUS: Support and voting

2009-02-05 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
Murphy wrote: >Tiger wrote: > >> I also vote FOR x2 the proposal in question. >> >> (If this message causes the proposal to become democrating, and so >> decreasing my voting limit to 1, the above papragraph is void and I >> instead vote FOR x1) > >You're not an eligible voter for proposal 6072, as

DIS: Re: BUS: Support and voting

2009-02-05 Thread Ed Murphy
Tiger wrote: > I also vote FOR x2 the proposal in question. > > (If this message causes the proposal to become democrating, and so > decreasing my voting limit to 1, the above papragraph is void and I > instead vote FOR x1) You're not an eligible voter for proposal 6072, as you weren't a player

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Read the Ruleset Week - typos

2009-02-05 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009, comex wrote: > I intend, without objection, to clean Rule 106 by replacing "than" by > "then" in the paragraph: Oh yes, nice try, I see what you're up to, first the proposal and now here's the second piece, and using a new player for cover, too! Clever loophole, though. I ob

DIS: Re: BUS: Appeals Errors

2009-02-05 Thread Charles Reiss
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:49, Ed Murphy wrote: [snip] > Proposal: Patch 2321a > (AI = 2, II = 0, please) > > Ratify the alleged history listed in these documents: > http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2321a > http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=2321 Can we copy-and-p

DIS: Re: BUS: Prempting that Rule 104 question

2009-02-05 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009, Charles Reiss wrote: > Proposal: Isn't This What Patent Titles Are For? No, it's not.

DIS: Re: BUS: Appeals Errors

2009-02-05 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 11:49 -0800, Ed Murphy wrote: > Proposal: Patch 2321a > (AI = 2, II = 0, please) Ratification is secured at 3. -- ais523

DIS: Re: BUS: Starting at the top

2009-02-05 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009, Taral wrote: > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 6:44 AM, Alex Smith wrote: >> I call for judgement on the statement "There is a rule with ID number >> 2105.". > > I transfer 1 prop from myself to ais523 for this awesome CFJ. By the way, as whitespace and capitalization and even punctua

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Prempting that Rule 104 question

2009-02-05 Thread Taral
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 7:10 AM, comex wrote: > As opposed to repealing Rule 104. Precisely. -- Taral "Please let me know if there's any further trouble I can give you." -- Unknown

Re: DIS: Read the Ruleset Week - typos

2009-02-05 Thread Ed Murphy
Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > This could just be me not being a native English speaker, but I think > the form "If xxx, than yyy" is incorrect. It is found in two places in > the rules, R106 and R2198, and should probably read "then" instead of > "than". Since the Rulekeepor can change these typos, it'

DIS: Read the Ruleset Week - typos

2009-02-05 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
This could just be me not being a native English speaker, but I think the form "If xxx, than yyy" is incorrect. It is found in two places in the rules, R106 and R2198, and should probably read "then" instead of "than". Since the Rulekeepor can change these typos, it's not necessary to submit propos

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Happy Read the Ruleset week everyone!

2009-02-05 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009, comex wrote: > On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> unless, at some point in the past month, a power 2+ rule >> contained the exact phrase "comex and ais523 were here". > > Proposal (AI=3) > { > Change the power of Rule 2238 to 3. > Furthermore, amend it by

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Starting at the top

2009-02-05 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009, Ed Murphy wrote: > ais523 wrote: >> Rule 2105 is an ASCII art picture (therefore not text) > > At least some ASCII art is also text, e.g. > http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=1267 More random gratuity: 1. In many modern contexts ASCII *is* text (e.g. "text file

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Economic cleanup proposals

2009-02-05 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 08:30 -0800, Ed Murphy wrote: > Wooble wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > >> Proposal: Five tons of flax > >> (AI = 2, please) > >> > >> If the Tailor did not publish eir report during the voting period of > >> the decision on whether to adopt t

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

2009-02-05 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 08:27 -0800, Ed Murphy wrote: > ais523 wrote: > > > Who says Murphy has to do all the work? > > > > The AFO publishes the following: > > {{{ > > Registrar's Census > > Huh, I somehow missed that during my Tuesday catchup. Would you like to > cover it on an ongoing basis?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Economic cleanup proposals

2009-02-05 Thread Ed Murphy
Wooble wrote: > On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: >> Proposal: Five tons of flax >> (AI = 2, please) >> >> If the Tailor did not publish eir report during the voting period of >> the decision on whether to adopt this proposal, then repeal Rule >> 2199 (Ribbons). > > The Tailor's

DIS: Re: OFF: [Registrar] Census

2009-02-05 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: > Who says Murphy has to do all the work? > > The AFO publishes the following: > {{{ > Registrar's Census Huh, I somehow missed that during my Tuesday catchup. Would you like to cover it on an ongoing basis?

DIS: Re: BUS: Starting at the top

2009-02-05 Thread Ed Murphy
ais523 wrote: > Rule 2105 is an ASCII art picture (therefore not text) At least some ASCII art is also text, e.g. http://zenith.homelinux.net/cotc/viewcase.php?cfj=1267 > that doesn't > attempt to define, regulate, change or modify anything, even > conditionally; so it doesn't seem to fit the de

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Happy Read the Ruleset week everyone!

2009-02-05 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009, Alex Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 07:58 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> If comex and ais523 have not yet won by dictatorship, comex >> and ais523 are hereby each awarded Missed Congeniality. > Note that I and the AFO almost certainly won by Dictatorship; the rule > was cha

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Happy Read the Ruleset week everyone!

2009-02-05 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 07:58 -0800, Kerim Aydin wrote: > If comex and ais523 have not yet won by dictatorship, comex > and ais523 are hereby each awarded Missed Congeniality. Note that I and the AFO almost certainly won by Dictatorship; the rule was changed to have the correct wording even if it wa

DIS: Re: BUS: Anarchist election and deputisation

2009-02-05 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 5 Feb 2009, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > On Mon, 2 Feb 2009, Kerim Aydin wrote: >> On Mon, 2 Feb 2009, Geoffrey Spear wrote: >>> This message serves to initiate the Agoran Decision to choose the >>> holder of the Anarchist office. The eligible voters are the active >>> players and the vote col

DIS: Re: BUS: Prempting that Rule 104 question

2009-02-05 Thread comex
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 10:07 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > I submit the following proposal (AI=2, II=1, Title="FAQ"): > > Insert the following paragraph after the third paragraph of rule 2186: > {{{ > When used as a period of time, a "game" is the period of time between > one instant at which at le

DIS: Re: BUS: Economic cleanup proposals

2009-02-05 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Wed, Feb 4, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Ed Murphy wrote: > Proposal: Five tons of flax > (AI = 2, please) > > If the Tailor did not publish eir report during the voting period of > the decision on whether to adopt this proposal, then repeal Rule > 2199 (Ribbons). The Tailor's report is monthly and was a

Re: DIS: Anarchist?

2009-02-05 Thread Geoffrey Spear
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:05 AM, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > Whatever happened to the Anarchist? As I understood it Bayes held it, > but was declared inactive and lost it, the Goethe nominated himself > for it. Has voting begun yet? The nomination period ends Fri 6 Feb 15:50:49. Goethe is currently

Re: DIS: Anarchist?

2009-02-05 Thread Elliott Hird
On 5 Feb 2009, at 14:05, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: Whatever happened to the Anarchist? As I understood it Bayes held it, but was declared inactive and lost it, the Goethe nominated himself for it. Has voting begun yet? I think Bayes is still Anarchist, officially. Not that rutian runs a mail se

DIS: Anarchist?

2009-02-05 Thread Jonatan Kilhamn
Whatever happened to the Anarchist? As I understood it Bayes held it, but was declared inactive and lost it, the Goethe nominated himself for it. Has voting begun yet?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Scorekeepor] Scoreboard

2009-02-05 Thread comex
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 4:56 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > I don't think it is possible to implicitly be a Win Announcement, they > have to be 'clearly labeled'. (I generally use the phrasing "The > following sentence is a Win Announcement, and this sentence serves to > clearly label it as one.") Actual

Re: DIS: Happy Read the Ruleset week everyone!

2009-02-05 Thread comex
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 5:34 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > Just a reminder to all Agorans, that this is Read the Ruleset Week. > (Just pointing it out, because you need to actually read the ruleset to > know when Read the Ruleset Week is...) Let's take advantage of the week to find a power escalation th

DIS: Re: BUS: Support and voting

2009-02-05 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2009-02-05 at 14:46 +0100, Jonatan Kilhamn wrote: > I support. > > I also vote FOR x2 the proposal in question. > > (If this message causes the proposal to become democrating, and so > decreasing my voting limit to 1, the above papragraph is void and I > instead vote FOR x1) Note that yo

DIS: Happy Read the Ruleset week everyone!

2009-02-05 Thread Alex Smith
Just a reminder to all Agorans, that this is Read the Ruleset Week. (Just pointing it out, because you need to actually read the ruleset to know when Read the Ruleset Week is...) -- ais523

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Scorekeepor] Scoreboard

2009-02-05 Thread Alex Smith
On Wed, 2009-02-04 at 15:10 -0800, Ed Murphy wrote: > Bah. This is a Win Announcement: I have enough points for a Win by > High Score, and satisfy no Losing Conditions. (Disclaimer: if the > previous message was a Win Announcement implicitly, then this one is > ineffective because scores have a