Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ for the win

2007-11-04 Thread Ed Murphy
root wrote: On 11/4/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: root wrote: On 11/4/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: root wrote: Second, the statement of this case is deliberately vague; it does not specify the circumstances to which it applies, but an UNDECIDABLE judgement is permissi

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: Re: BUS: Fookiemyartug

2007-11-04 Thread Ian Kelly
On 11/4/07, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/4/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I object. It's not part of the CotC's report, and its accuracy is > > in doubt. > > Proto: Public claims of personhood are self-ratifying, to avoid > gamestate recalculation. I don't think that works.

DIS: Re: OFF: Re: BUS: Fookiemyartug

2007-11-04 Thread comex
On 11/4/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I object. It's not part of the CotC's report, and its accuracy is > in doubt. Proto: Public claims of personhood are self-ratifying, to avoid gamestate recalculation.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Transferral of blue VCs

2007-11-04 Thread comex
On 11/4/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Btw, the line I was expecting you to use to object to this was "This > is madness!". I was all prepared with the "This is Agora!" rejoinder. I berate myself for not having thought of that.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ for the win

2007-11-04 Thread Ian Kelly
On 11/4/07, Kerim Aydin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > root wrote: > > The statement could equally be equivalent to "Judging UNDECIDABLE is > > [generally] permissible" (FALSE), "Judging UNDECIDABLE is [sometimes] > > permissible" (TRUE), or even "Judging UNDECIDABLE is permissible [in > > this cas

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Transferral of blue VCs

2007-11-04 Thread Zefram
comex wrote: >Perhaps, but Zefram could have easily have kept the VCs. pikhq and I made an agreement to destroy all but one of the VCs. We both wanted the VCs to not exist, as is evidenced by our voting on relevant proposals. >seems contrary to the spirit of Agora that he didn't. It is very much

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ for the win

2007-11-04 Thread Ian Kelly
On 11/4/07, comex <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/4/07, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The statement could equally be equivalent to "Judging UNDECIDABLE is > > [generally] permissible" (FALSE), "Judging UNDECIDABLE is [sometimes] > > permissible" (TRUE), or even "Judging UNDECIDABLE is

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ for the win

2007-11-04 Thread Ian Kelly
On 11/4/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > root wrote: > > > On 11/4/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> root wrote: > > >>> Second, the statement of this case is deliberately vague; it does not > >>> specify the circumstances to which it applies, but an UNDECIDABLE > >>> judgemen

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Transferral of blue VCs

2007-11-04 Thread Josiah Worcester
On Sunday 04 November 2007 17:02:35 comex wrote: > Perhaps, but Zefram could have easily have kept the VCs. Honestly > it seems contrary to the spirit of Agora that he didn't. Perhaps Zefram keeps his word even outside of the public forum? :p

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Transferral of blue VCs

2007-11-04 Thread comex
On 11/4/07, Josiah Worcester <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I think not. It eliminated one of your attempts at spamming the > courts. :) Perhaps, but Zefram could have easily have kept the VCs. Honestly it seems contrary to the spirit of Agora that he didn't.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Transferral of blue VCs

2007-11-04 Thread Josiah Worcester
On Sunday 04 November 2007 16:50:34 comex wrote: > I KNEW that allowing the CotC discretion over linked assignments was > a bad idea! I think not. It eliminated one of your attempts at spamming the courts. :)

DIS: Re: BUS: Transferral of blue VCs

2007-11-04 Thread comex
On 11/4/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If all ten thousand CFJs referred to as Sparta-Sparta in > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> exist, then I spend 2 blue VCs > to make pikhq gain 1 blue VC. > > -zefram > I KNEW that allowing the CotC discretion over linked assignments was a bad idea!

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ for the win

2007-11-04 Thread Kerim Aydin
root wrote: > The statement could equally be equivalent to "Judging UNDECIDABLE is > [generally] permissible" (FALSE), "Judging UNDECIDABLE is [sometimes] > permissible" (TRUE), or even "Judging UNDECIDABLE is permissible [in > this case]" (FALSE). As it stands, it contains zero context, which in

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: null proposal distribution

2007-11-04 Thread Zefram
Levi Stephen wrote: >I had a proposal in the message > >http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private/agora-business/2007-October/007825.html > >that I believe has been missed. Correct. Sorry. It's in the pool and will be distributed in the next batch. -zefram

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Transferral of blue VCs

2007-11-04 Thread Zefram
Josiah Worcester wrote: >If all ten thousand CFJs referred to as Sparta-Sparta in ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> exist, then I spend 40 blue VCs >to make Zefram gain 20 blue VCs. nttpf. -zefram

DIS: Re: BUS: Transferral of blue VCs

2007-11-04 Thread Josiah Worcester
If all ten thousand CFJs referred to as Sparta-Sparta in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> exist, then I spend 40 blue VCs to make Zefram gain 20 blue VCs.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Transferral of blue VCs

2007-11-04 Thread Zefram
Josiah Worcester wrote: >If all ten thousand CFJs referred to as Sparta-Sparta in ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> exist, then I spend 2500 blue VCs >to make Zefram gain 1250 blue VCs. nttpf. -zefram

DIS: Re: BUS: Transferral of blue VCs

2007-11-04 Thread Josiah Worcester
If all ten thousand CFJs referred to as Sparta-Sparta in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> exist, then I spend 2500 blue VCs to make Zefram gain 1250 blue VCs.

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ

2007-11-04 Thread Zefram
Ed Murphy wrote: > pikhq initiated a criminal case in > Message-id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I thought it was rather unclear, and possibly thereby ineffective, but not for your reason. I thought that the identification of the defendant was clear, but the rule allegedly breached and particula

DIS: Re: OFF: null proposal distribution

2007-11-04 Thread Levi Stephen
Zefram wrote: There would normally be a proposal distribution at this time, but there are no proposals to distribute. Proposal ID numbers: highest orderly: 5286 disorderly: none Proposal pool: empty I had a proposal in the message http://www.agoranomic.org/cgi-bin/mailman/private

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ for the win

2007-11-04 Thread Ed Murphy
root wrote: On 11/4/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: root wrote: Second, the statement of this case is deliberately vague; it does not specify the circumstances to which it applies, but an UNDECIDABLE judgement is permissible iff it is appropriate. Therefore, a judgement of UNDECIDA

DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1779: assign comex

2007-11-04 Thread comex
On 11/4/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I hereby assign comex as judge of CFJ 1779. Pseudo-judgement: UNDETERMINED, per the clear precedent set by CFJ 1744.

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ for the win

2007-11-04 Thread comex
On 11/4/07, Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The statement could equally be equivalent to "Judging UNDECIDABLE is > [generally] permissible" (FALSE), "Judging UNDECIDABLE is [sometimes] > permissible" (TRUE), or even "Judging UNDECIDABLE is permissible [in > this case]" (FALSE). As it stands

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ for the win

2007-11-04 Thread Ian Kelly
On 11/4/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > root wrote: > > > First, the veracity of the statement is not irrelevant to the game, as > > the outcome of this case determines whether or not the Initiator wins > > the game; a judgement of IRRELEVANT is thus inappropriate to this > > case. > > S

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ for the win

2007-11-04 Thread Ian Kelly
On 11/4/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > root wrote: > > > First, the veracity of the statement is not irrelevant to the game, as > > the outcome of this case determines whether or not the Initiator wins > > the game; a judgement of IRRELEVANT is thus inappropriate to this > > case. > > S

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ for the win

2007-11-04 Thread Ed Murphy
root wrote: First, the veracity of the statement is not irrelevant to the game, as the outcome of this case determines whether or not the Initiator wins the game; a judgement of IRRELEVANT is thus inappropriate to this case. So? The outcome of any case determines whether or not the judge gets

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on points win

2007-11-04 Thread comex
On 11/4/07, Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I hereby call for judgement, barring comex, on the statement "Partnership > 1's Contest allowed any first-class player to become a party". Arguments: Gratuitous arguments: It seems odd that a message sent *after* the contest was formed could retroac

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting Limits and Credits Report

2007-11-04 Thread Zefram
Ed Murphy wrote: >Does this mean that you are the author of Proposal 5269? I believe no one is. That's what I have recorded for it, and for the precedent proposal 4963. -zefram