Re: [agi] Simulation

2019-09-27 Thread John Rose
On Tuesday, September 24, 2019, at 2:05 PM, korrelan wrote: > The realisation/ understanding that the human brain is closed system, to me… is a first order/ obvious/ primary concept when designing an AGI or in my case a neuromorphic brain simulation. A human brain is merely an instance node on

Re: [agi] Simulation

2019-09-27 Thread John Rose
On Tuesday, September 24, 2019, at 3:34 PM, korrelan wrote: > Reading back up the thread I do seem rather stern or harsh in my opinions, if > I came across this way I apologise.  I didn't think that of you we shouldn't be overly sensitive and afraid to offend. There is no right to not be offende

Re: [agi] MindForth is the brain for an autonomous robot.

2019-09-27 Thread John Rose
On Wednesday, September 25, 2019, at 7:01 PM, James Bowery wrote: > Yes, what is missing is the parsimony of your measure, since the Perplexity > and Logical Expectation measures have open parameters that if filled properly > reduce to K-Complexity. James, interesting, thanks for making us aware

Re: [agi] Re: The world on the eve of the singularity.

2019-09-27 Thread John Rose
We must first accept and understand that there are intelligence structures bigger than ourselves and some of these structures cannot be fully modeled by one puny human brain. And some structures are vastly inter-generational... and some may be designed or emerged that way across generations to

Re: [agi] Simulation

2019-09-27 Thread korrelan
>All biologic brains are connected by at the very least DNA at a very base level. Not a closed system. I agree that all brains are initially built from a similar DNA blueprint, and that DNA plays a role in development and function. If the sensory streams from your sensory organs were disconnect

Re: [agi] Simulation

2019-09-27 Thread John Rose
On Friday, September 27, 2019, at 8:59 AM, korrelan wrote: > If the sensory streams from your sensory organs were disconnected what would your experience of reality be?  No sight, sound, tactile or sensory input of any description, how would you play a part/ interact with this wider network you des

Re: [agi] Simulation

2019-09-27 Thread immortal . discoveries
Yes I agree with these posts above and you guys seem to have picked up my ideas too. We could say our molecules make the decision korrelan :) The group really does have its own noggin making the decisions. It's true that if we were disconnected and we would not be able to get this far as fast.

Re: [agi] Simulation

2019-09-27 Thread John Rose
On Friday, September 27, 2019, at 10:57 AM, immortal.discoveries wrote: > We could say our molecules make the decision korrelan :) And the microbiome bacteria, etc., transmitting through the gut-brain axis could have massive more complexity than the brain. "The gut-brain axis, a bidirectional ne

Re: [agi] Simulation

2019-09-27 Thread immortal . discoveries
Describing intelligence is easier when ignore the low level molecules. What if we ignore the brain and focus on the hive? May lead to what Open AI did with the Hide & Seek bots. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.c

Re: [agi] Simulation

2019-09-27 Thread immortal . discoveries
Imagine you have only 1 agent, and the other bots are the environment! You make a hut to stay in. It rains. You fix it. It snows. You fix it. A tiger enters. You add a door. I still think this is costly but maybe it'll work. -- Artificial General Intelligen

Re: [agi] Simulation

2019-09-27 Thread John Rose
On Friday, September 27, 2019, at 1:44 PM, immortal.discoveries wrote: > Describing intelligence is easier when ignore the low level molecules. What if it loops? I remember reading a book as a kid where a scientist invented a new powerful microscope, looked into it, and saw himself looking int

Re: [agi] Simulation

2019-09-27 Thread immortal . discoveries
Well, we duplicate and build all our technology just to persist. So all you need is a intelligence that finds ways efficiently. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Taa86c5612b8739b7-M87b438bd17bfb0185f

Re: [agi] Simulation

2019-09-27 Thread John Rose
Persist as what? Unpersist the sun rising, break the 99.99... % probability that it rises tomorrow. What happens? We burn. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi/Taa86c5612b8739b7-M1ebf99508486d21d6e0f5