Re: [agi] Re: AGI Research Without Neural Networks

2019-09-21 Thread Nanograte Knowledge Technologies
We have that, but I'm not convinced such power should be placed in the hands of secretive, harvesting corporations with near-unlimited resources. While we're tinkering, they'd be rolling out devastating, social-oriented products. Rather, we should build our own, ethical products with it. Libera

Re: [agi] Re: AGI Research Without Neural Networks

2019-09-21 Thread keghnfeem
Yes.   Brute force pattern matching, SVM, K-means and  artificial neural networks. All done with unsupervised learning.   Doing with NN was the hardest.   Brut force with Kolmogorov complexity and then clustering was the easy.   But with my master of nn i discovered how to make SVM work as good

Re: [agi] Re: AGI Research Without Neural Networks

2019-09-21 Thread Yan King Yin, 甄景贤
We need an abstract formulation of knowledge representations as a category. This category would include neural representations and logic representations as special cases, but it is general enough to transcend both cases. From this abstract standpoint we could see how much freedom we have among AG

[agi] Genetic evolution of logic rules experiment

2019-09-21 Thread Yan King Yin, 甄景贤
Anyone interested in genetic evolution approach to learn logic rules? Each logic rule would be encoded as a gene (individual) and the whole set of rules evolve as a entire population. This is the so-called cooperative evolution approach. My code is about 70-80% completed. It's in Python, on Git

Re: [agi] Simulation

2019-09-21 Thread rouncer81
Agreed with everyone here on this subject.   yes simulation - what have I got to say? Time is not the 4th dimension, time is actually powering space.   (x*y*z)^time. -- Artificial General Intelligence List: AGI Permalink: https://agi.topicbox.com/groups/agi

Re: [agi] Simulation

2019-09-21 Thread John Rose
On Saturday, September 21, 2019, at 11:01 AM, Stefan Reich wrote: > Interesting thought. In all fairness, we can just not really interact with a > number which doesn't have a finite description. As soon as we do, we pull it > into our finiteness and it stops being infinite. IMO there are only fi

Re: [agi] Simulation

2019-09-21 Thread Stefan Reich via AGI
> It is like saying that the vast majority of real numbers don't have a finite length description. I can't give you an example of one of those either. Interesting thought. In all fairness, we can just not really interact with a number which doesn't have a finite description. As soon as we do, we p

Re: [agi] Simulation

2019-09-21 Thread Matt Mahoney
These aren't the only 4 possible simulation scenarios. There are probably others we cannot imagine because the simulation doesn't allow us to. And no, I can't give you an example for that reason. It is like saying that the vast majority of real numbers don't have a finite length description. I can

Re: [agi] Simulation

2019-09-21 Thread immortal . discoveries
When I dream, I can see anything, I was in a huge desert full of buildings, no end in sight, creatures walking up a grass oompa-loompa land. Sometimes I have a new body and even can feel tentacles around a sewer wall while in my new body not even touching that wall (I have a skin around the wall

Re: [agi] Simulation

2019-09-21 Thread John Rose
All four are partially correct. It is a simulation. And you're it. When you die your own private Idaho ends *poof*. This can all be modeled within the framework of conscioIntelligence, CI = UCP + OR. When you are that tabula rasa simuloid in your mother's womb you begin to occupy a represent