Re: [agi] Compressed Algorithms that can work on compressed data.

2018-10-09 Thread Nanograte Knowledge Technologies via AGI
Mike, I beg to differ and to agree on various points. I differ on the perspective of learning. Typical learning processes within humans involve the generic functionality of continuous deabstraction, classification, association, prioritization, storage, and recall, and perhaps a few more. Where

Re: [agi] Compressed Algorithms that can work on compressed data.

2018-10-09 Thread Mike Archbold via AGI
The fascinating thing for me about this discussion is the notion that when we talk about compression, it is just the psychological equivalent of learning an idea. In philosophy it is like determining what is essential, universal. In old AI it would be like learning the rules. It's generalization.

Re: [agi] Compressed Algorithms that can work on compressed data.

2018-10-09 Thread Stefan Reich via AGI
This is such a weird statement. Like you try to make the human look stupid, but it is really smarter for AI production to have smart humans. I kind of conclude you are not actually in the AI game yourself. On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 at 18:03, Matt Mahoney via AGI wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018, 9:44 A

Re: [agi] Compressed Algorithms that can work on compressed data.

2018-10-09 Thread Stefan Reich via AGI
We're not making AGI immediately anyway. We make many steps of general-purpose AI, gradually increasing in complexity. All of these steps we can fully control. On Tue, 9 Oct 2018 at 16:58, Stefan Reich < stefan.reich.maker.of@googlemail.com> wrote: > Hehe. Maybe we misunderstood each other. I

Re: [agi] Compressed Algorithms that can work on compressed data.

2018-10-09 Thread Stefan Reich via AGI
Hehe. Maybe we misunderstood each other. I want to understand how the AI that I make works is what I mean. On Mon, 8 Oct 2018 at 18:03, Matt Mahoney via AGI wrote: > > > On Mon, Oct 8, 2018, 9:44 AM Stefan Reich via AGI > wrote: > >> >> >> Matt Mahoney via AGI schrieb am So., 7. Okt. 2018 >> 0

RE: [agi] Compressed Algorithms that can work on compressed data.

2018-10-09 Thread John Rose
> -Original Message- > From: Jim Bromer via AGI > > Operating on compressed data without having to decompress it is the goal that > I am thinking of so being able to access internal relations would be > important. > There can be some compressed data that does not contain explicit interna