Re: [AFMUG] Trango MTU

2021-09-27 Thread dmmoffett
Hah. I did ctrl+F and searched for “MTU”. They’re saying “packet size”. I guess I have to actually read things like some kind of plebian. From: AF On Behalf Of Omni Flux via AF Sent: Saturday, September 25, 2021 9:29 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Omni Flux Subject: R

[AFMUG] Surge protector on tower

2021-09-27 Thread dmmoffett
A lot of installation guides tell you to put a surge protector at the bottom and top end of a cable going up a tower. Does anyone here actually do that? Every installation I've seen in person has only had them on the bottom. I think the fears people have are the SS housing leaking up or othe

Re: [AFMUG] Surge protector on tower

2021-09-27 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
If I was to put one at the top, it would be a 100% gas tube unit. They are much more robust. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:44 AM, dmmoff...@gmail.com wrote: > >  > A lot of installation guides tell you to put a surge protector at the bottom > and top end of a cable going up a t

Re: [AFMUG] Surge protector on tower

2021-09-27 Thread Mark Radabaugh
For most of our Cambium 450 and 820 gear we install the surge suppressors at the top and some type of surge suppressor at the bottom. The upper is usually the Cambium spec unit. The lower unit may be Cambium, Chuck’s surge suppressors, or where we are using CTM’s it's the internal surge supp

Re: [AFMUG] Surge protector on tower

2021-09-27 Thread castarritt
We do the double surge suppressor thing on our Cambium APs as well. Still get AP failures, but those are almost all 450Ms that get water in them. Of course, they would all fail after the 1yr warranty, but then Cambium extended it to 3yrs on newer units; great new, right? Weust had another get wa

Re: [AFMUG] Surge protector on tower

2021-09-27 Thread dmmoffett
Warranties and insurance are about the same…..they only cover stuff that doesn’t happen. From: AF On Behalf Of castarritt Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 12:02 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Surge protector on tower We do the double surge suppressor thin

Re: [AFMUG] Surge protector on tower

2021-09-27 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I have inland marine insurance on lots of my stuff. Mostly tools and equipment. It has been worth it to me. From: dmmoff...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 12:11 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Surge protector on tower Warranties and insurance are

[AFMUG] Supply Chain Issues

2021-09-27 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I'm getting really tired of dealing with supply chain issues. Like burnt out, don't want to do this anymore, I've had enough tired. Just the things I'm dealing with today: The last few days, all of my spare time has been related to reviewing options to replace a part which has become unobtainum

Re: [AFMUG] Supply Chain Issues

2021-09-27 Thread Daniel Pautz via AF
Welcome to the new norm, right? Its hard to imagine it back to 2019. Can’t get people to show for interviews / work at more than double the pay of 2019, something like 40 container ships sitting in SoCal oceans, saw NYC / east coast is getting backed up, etc. Holiday stuff is goin

Re: [AFMUG] Supply Chain Issues

2021-09-27 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I try to have at least two sources for everything. But I don’t have for enclosures and din rail snaps. I did have to substitute two choke coils for a common mode double choke. I have seen some of my problem parts shipping now. Plastic sdr11 conduit seems to be coming down. Lumber prices are

Re: [AFMUG] Supply Chain Issues

2021-09-27 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I read that in some states, the combination federal and state benefits equaled $19/hour. No wonder we could not hire enough. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 27, 2021, at 4:32 PM, Daniel Pautz via AF wrote: > >  > Welcome to the new norm, right? > > Its hard to imagine it back to 2019. Can

[AFMUG] OT Jodie Foster

2021-09-27 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I wonder if she waited for John Hinckley… My wife said that was not funny. Sent from my iPhone -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Supply Chain Issues

2021-09-27 Thread Mike Hammett
88 containers the last I saw. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Daniel Pautz via AF" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Cc: "Daniel Pautz" Sent: Monday, September 27, 2021 5:3

Re: [AFMUG] Supply Chain Issues

2021-09-27 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
One of those ships has stuff for me. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 27, 2021, at 6:14 PM, Mike Hammett wrote: > >  > 88 containers the last I saw. > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions > > Midwest Internet Exchange > > The Brothers WISP > > > > > From: "Daniel P

Re: [AFMUG] Supply Chain Issues

2021-09-27 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I try hard not to do single-source items. And usually have qualified multiple parts. The ones which are kicking my rear this year are the 25Mhz MEMS oscillators. These are the standard clock oscillator for anything ethernet.I have a specific size I use and also voltage, temperature, and pp

Re: [AFMUG] OT Jodie Foster

2021-09-27 Thread Jaime Solorza
Jenny is correct... listen to her On Mon, Sep 27, 2021, 6:04 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > > I wonder if she waited for John Hinckley… > > My wife said that was not funny. > Sent from my iPhone > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > --

Re: [AFMUG] Supply Chain Issues

2021-09-27 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Could you dead bug a tcxo? Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 27, 2021, at 7:48 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) > wrote: > >  > I try hard not to do single-source items. And usually have qualified > multiple parts. > > The ones which are kicking my rear this year are the 25Mhz MEMS oscilla

Re: [AFMUG] Supply Chain Issues

2021-09-27 Thread Sean Heskett
I'm sorry to hear this Forest. I wanted to send you some words of encouragement though. Your products and the solutions they provide are EXTREMELY valuable to not just my business but our whole industry. There is a slew of stuff your products accomplish for us that would honestly take a fraken-m

Re: [AFMUG] Supply Chain Issues

2021-09-27 Thread Steve Jones
That's what concerns me. Companies like packetflux deliver topnotch gear at affordable prices. They stand behind their product. So forrest may bring in 10 units to verify, then order months or years worth of component. Somewhere up the chain though one of the components components gets a shortcut

Re: [AFMUG] Supply Chain Issues

2021-09-27 Thread Robert
So many vendors have had to go from JIT ordering to backlog ordering that the parts that were ordered in 100's or 1000's are now being ordered in the 10K's and 100K's or even 1MM's.. So the system is broken.  The fix isn't going to arrive until the market can rebalance.  Unfortunately this isn'

Re: [AFMUG] Supply Chain Issues

2021-09-27 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Thanks for the kind words. Just to be clear, I'm not planning on quitting any time soon. I'm too stubborn for that. I've just reached the point where I've passed beyond "this kinda sucks" into the level of frustration I described in my first post. Usually, a good night's sleep or a weekend awa

Re: [AFMUG] Supply Chain Issues

2021-09-27 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I could. The real problem I'm often trying to avoid is a board spin and increased labor. I also probably am way too fussy about what qualifications I need/want to do before I put a replacement part in service. Like temperature tests and the like. The problem initially was that it sometimes t

Re: [AFMUG] Supply Chain Issues

2021-09-27 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I think the distributors are trying to help fix this brokenness in that I'm now seeing restrictions on certain part quantities. Like the electronics equivalent of you can only buy 1 package of toilet paper a week. That of course isn't helpful if you've got a large family that uses 2 a week. Or

Re: [AFMUG] Supply Chain Issues

2021-09-27 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Fortunately in my case we're largely doing component-level sourcing instead of assembly-level sourcing, and I'm probably over fussy about qualifying a new part. Plus the vendors tend to be over-fussy about change management so the risk is rather low, at least I hope so. But your point is exactly