Re: [AFMUG] Public broadband failures

2021-07-13 Thread Brian Webster
Are you talking about the UC2B network? That one in particular just agreed to run it to get the Obama era funding to connect the college campuses as I recall then they contracted out to an ISP to run and manage it. Thank you, Brian Webster www.wirelessmapping.com -Original Message- From:

Re: [AFMUG] Need to replace CCR1072 being used for NAT

2021-07-13 Thread Adam Moffett
The issue becomes apparent when you exceed ~3gbps traffic On 7/12/2021 8:07 PM, Steve Jones wrote: we do limited NAT in ours with BGP, but we dont go over 2gbs. We recently finished deploying all our new ARIN IP space so we have very little NAT. Never had the issue, but thats not a statement th

Re: [AFMUG] Public broadband failures

2021-07-13 Thread Nate Burke
Is there a good writeup of the fiasco somewhere? On July 12, 2021 7:26:30 PM CDT, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: >Provo Utah was a muni system. I offered $4m when they got tired of it. > Instead they sold to Google for $2. As in two dollars. > >Sent from my iPhone > >> On Jul 12, 2021, at 5:15 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] Public broadband failures

2021-07-13 Thread Adam Moffett
They sometimes fall into the trap of thinking it's going to be easy.  Somebody in the County IT department thinks they can be the ISP admin in their spare time. You could compile the list yourself.  Get a list of BTOP recipients and try to follow up with a random sample of them. -Adam On 7

Re: [AFMUG] Public broadband failures

2021-07-13 Thread Tyson Burris
Isn't CenturyLink's CAF Phase 1 a total flop in most states? It was a half ass quick build and they had their hands slap by the FCC? Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131   Office # 317-738-0320 Cell/Direct # 317-412-1540 Online: www.surf

Re: [AFMUG] Public broadband failures

2021-07-13 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
I'm still waiting for my DSL service so at least at my CAS covered address it was a flop. On Tue, Jul 13, 2021, 8:00 AM Tyson Burris wrote: > Isn't CenturyLink's CAF Phase 1 a total flop in most states? > It was a half ass quick build and they had their hands slap by the FCC? > > Tyson Burri

Re: [AFMUG] Public broadband failures

2021-07-13 Thread Tyson Burris
When I asked Claude if there has been or is ANY other country in the world who is running fiber or tossing money to get every home ‘broadband’ I was told Australia attempted it but ended up backing away from the idea. We simply are wasting money left and right with failed political decisions an

Re: [AFMUG] Public broadband failures

2021-07-13 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
My understanding is that one model that seems to work is where the municipality builds a strand of fiber from an appropriate number of centralized locations to every home in a community or neighborhood and doesn't light the fiber. They also build enough backbone fiber to each of these locations t

Re: [AFMUG] 1099 vs employee liability underground

2021-07-13 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
In Montana, if a 1099 contactor doesn't have workers comp, the company hiring them can be on the hook depending on the exact details. On Thu, Mar 11, 2021, 7:18 AM Josh Luthman wrote: > Why do you care if they have workers comp insurance? > > Josh Luthman > 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 > Direct

Re: [AFMUG] Public broadband failures

2021-07-13 Thread Mike Hammett
DeKalb County. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Nate Burke" To: "Animal Farm" Sent: Monday, July 12, 2021 6:15:15 PM Subject: [AFMUG] Public broadband failures Does anyone know

Re: [AFMUG] Public broadband failures

2021-07-13 Thread Adam Moffett
The USA did it with telephones and USF and Rural Utilities.  It worked.  There's almost nowhere with no phone service. We could do it again with fiber, but this would become a very different business.  Officially sanctioned monopolies with pricing and service level set by bureaucrats.  I would

Re: [AFMUG] Public broadband failures

2021-07-13 Thread Robert
Italy On 7/13/21 8:00 AM, Tyson Burris wrote: When I asked Claude if there has been or is ANY other country in the world who is running fiber or tossing money to  get every home ‘broadband’ I was told Australia attempted it but ended up backing away from the idea. We simply are wasting mon

Re: [AFMUG] Public broadband failures

2021-07-13 Thread Bill Prince
South Korea is pretty darn close, but they have a fairly unique population demographic with an unusually high percentage of their population living in the cities. bp On 7/13/2021 8:52 AM, Robert wrote: Italy On 7/13/21 8:

Re: [AFMUG] Public broadband failures

2021-07-13 Thread Tyson Burris
Hard to say something is close when the demographics aren’t even comparable. Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 Office # 317-738-0320 Cell/Direct # 317-412-1540 Online: www.surfici.net [ICI] What can ICI do for you? Broadband Wireless - PtP

Re: [AFMUG] Public broadband failures

2021-07-13 Thread Tyson Burris
Wrong. Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 Office # 317-738-0320 Cell/Direct # 317-412-1540 Online: www.surfici.net [ICI] What can ICI do for you? Broadband Wireless - PtP/PtMP Solutions - Mesh Wifi/Hotzones - IP Cameras - Fiber - Towers - I

Re: [AFMUG] Public broadband failures

2021-07-13 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Many of the telcos have elected the ACAM program. They get a big pile of money for 10 years. They have to build out fiber. The presumption is that the welfare checks stop at the end of the 10 year period. Then they have to operate on a straight up business model like everyone else. We wil

Re: [AFMUG] Need to replace CCR1072 being used for NAT

2021-07-13 Thread Steven Kenney
Yep and Mikrotik won't touch it. Even though there is plenty of memory and resources available. It seems to be the 1 million connection mark when things go bad. On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 8:57 AM Adam Moffett wrote: > The issue becomes apparent when you exceed ~3gbps traffic > On 7/12/2021 8:07 P

Re: [AFMUG] Public broadband failures

2021-07-13 Thread Steve Jones
This inept administration is constantly raising the bar on ineptitude. It's like watching a wife who has the husbands credit card after a few too many martinis On Tue, Jul 13, 2021, 12:13 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Many of the telcos have elected the ACAM program. They get a big pile of >