Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower

2018-12-21 Thread Andy Trimmell
https://www.balticnetworks.com/shireen-sm-fiber-power-triamese-cable-100 0ft-spool.html This is what we've been using. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2018 5:52 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower

2018-12-21 Thread Josh Baird
Andy, Mind sharing exactly what tools you use to terminate ends on this cable? We have always ordered pre-made cables, but we're interested in starting to terminate our own. We have a spool of this same cable just sitting there doing nothing at the moment. Thanks, Josh On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower

2018-12-21 Thread Andy Trimmell
We just the splice the ends on to it. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Josh Baird Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 9:00 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Fiber up the tower Andy, Mind sharing exactly what tools you use to terminate ends o

Re: [AFMUG] Open Networks

2018-12-21 Thread Christopher Gray
Any ideas on whether a government owned network is required to provide open access? I've heard mixed info regarding this. I assume it varies by state, but I haven't seen rules either way. Thanks Carl, that link offers a nice explanation, I'll look into what seems to make the most sense. Also, than

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: EPMP 200's always listen on 169.254.1.1

2018-12-21 Thread Sam Lambie
Thanks guys, I appreciate the insight. On Thu, Dec 20, 2018 at 8:30 PM Steve Jones wrote: > Its by design and awesome > > On Thu, Dec 20, 2018, 11:40 AM John Seaman via AF >> There is a way to disable >> >> >> >> >> https://community.cambiumnetworks.com/t5/ePMP-3000-2000-and-1000/ePMP-default-1

[AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

2018-12-21 Thread David Coudron
We have been running into more and more situations where customers either have homes that are too large to effectively cover with a good router, or have so many devices at the far end of the house from where their router has to be positioned that we are looking for good options to provide better

Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

2018-12-21 Thread chuck
Calix 844 has a mesh extender that supposedly has touchless provisioning. I have a mesh box at home to play with but still have not taken it out of the box. From: David Coudron Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 4:01 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] Managed whole house

[AFMUG] OT new web site

2018-12-21 Thread chuck
I think I have my new construction web site done. If you feel like it please look it over and give me feedback. I think it is done... https://mccowntech.wptstaging.space/fiber-optic/-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

2018-12-21 Thread Jason McKemie
The GigaSpire Max & Blast look intriguing. Not sure on pricing as of yet though. On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 5:06 PM wrote: > Calix 844 has a mesh extender that supposedly has touchless provisioning. > I have a mesh box at home to play with but still have not taken it out of > the box. > > *From:*

Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

2018-12-21 Thread Darin Steffl
Calix is the only good method today for routers and a mesh solution that can be managed by the ISP. Powerline adapters suck and we don't use them anymore. WiFi extenders are just as bad and we tell customers to throw them in the garbage. They cause more issues than they fix. We have 850+ Calix Gig

Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

2018-12-21 Thread chuck
So do I have to do anything to make my Calix mesh box work. I kinda forgot I had it. From: Darin Steffl Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 4:33 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi Calix is the only good method today for routers and a mesh

Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

2018-12-21 Thread Ken Hohhof
I am running into a lot of customers insisting on putting cheap WiFi cameras outside their metal buildings and expecting their WiFi to work on the other side of the Faraday cage. I think the right answer is "don't do that", but they don't listen. I don't think any of the solutions being discussed

Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

2018-12-21 Thread Ken Hohhof
I remember seeing they had a Youtube video how to do it. Lights help you optimize the location. From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, December 21, 2018 5:36 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi So do I have to do anyth

Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

2018-12-21 Thread Mike Hammett
I'm not sure anyone deploying coax cameras anymore is "doing it right". - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Ken Hohhof" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Friday, December 2

Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

2018-12-21 Thread Mathew Howard
It seems to me, that the "right way" would be to run ethernet to all the cameras. On Fri, Dec 21, 2018 at 6:04 PM Mike Hammett wrote: > I'm not sure anyone deploying coax cameras anymore is "doing it right". > > > > - > Mike Hammett > Intelligent Computing Solutions

Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

2018-12-21 Thread Chuck McCown
Why coax and not cat5 cameras? Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 21, 2018, at 4:56 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > > I am running into a lot of customers insisting on putting cheap WiFi cameras > outside their metal buildings and expecting their WiFi to work on the other > side of the Faraday cage. I thi

Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

2018-12-21 Thread Mike Meluskey
Mikrotik just came out with a Powerline adaptor: https://mikrotik.com/product/pwr_line_ap_us_plug#fndtn-gallery That should give us the visibility we all want in Powerline wifi Mike Meluskey Broadband VI On 21 Dec 2018, at 20:15, Chuck McCown wrote: Why coax and not cat5 cameras? Sent from my

Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

2018-12-21 Thread Ken Hohhof
That or POE. I see very few businesses with WiFi security cams. I think what it comes down to is once you are wiring the cameras to a central DVR or NVR, it’s cheaper to use analog cameras. I’m assuming they can power them over the coax. My point is that a WiFi camera outside a metal buil

Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

2018-12-21 Thread Ken Hohhof
I’m OK with 2.4 only and 1.5 dBi antenna. Preorder means who knows when it will actually be available. WiFi at router end seems redundant, Netgear kit has WiFi at one end only. Mode button looks like something for customer to push and mess up the config. Price looks right. From: AF On B

Re: [AFMUG] Windfarm in licensed path

2018-12-21 Thread Steve Jones
So, I'm going to have to sign an NDA, so I assume that means I can't reach out publicly for advice anymore, never been under NDA on a serious matter before. Prior to signing, is this a matter we should grab the attorney to represent us or just to have review paperwork? So far it's very amicable, co

Re: [AFMUG] Windfarm in licensed path

2018-12-21 Thread Matt Hoppes
Is this in or near Miami? There’s a requirement anyone building something there make sure it won’t build into the path of a microwave. Otherwise I mean. You can’t just build into a utility line. Why is building into a microwave path any different. > On Dec 21, 2018, at 23:45, Steve Jones wr

Re: [AFMUG] Windfarm in licensed path

2018-12-21 Thread Adam Moffett
NDAlike in case you bump into secret wind turbine information? Or more like, they'll make some remedy for you to make you whole, but don't want every other swingin dick on the block to come around looking for the same deal after the fact so keep your fool mouth shut. On 12/21/2018 11:45 P

Re: [AFMUG] Windfarm in licensed path

2018-12-21 Thread Steve Jones
I assume the latter. I feel kind of bad for wind energy in some of the hoops they have to jump through. We have one customer who gets a check not to publicly complain about them. The hoops they have to jump through would irritate me if I were in their shoes. On Fri, Dec 21, 2018, 11:25 PM Adam Mof

Re: [AFMUG] Windfarm in licensed path

2018-12-21 Thread Ken Hohhof
In a previous life I regularly had to sign NDAs, most of them weren’t worth paying the lawyers to review. My rule of thumb FWIW was if the agreement was reciprocal and symmetric, it was OK. Otherwise, pay the lawyers. But of course I am not a lawyer, and may be wrong, and your lawyer would de

[AFMUG] 10 mile fiber

2018-12-21 Thread Steve Jones
If a guy wanted to get fiber in the ground, non aerial between two buildings to replace an existing licensed 1.3 gb link. Crosses 3 creek/ditches, 10 rural intersections, 10 rural town blocks. What would be needed? I would guess that duct is the best thing to put it in, innerduct being better. I'd

Re: [AFMUG] Managed whole house mesh wifi

2018-12-21 Thread Steve Jones
Our contracted phone answerers literally just told one of our customers they needed a higher speed connection to have a mesh system in their house. They're lucky I can't reach through tickets and choke people On Fri, Dec 21, 2018, 7:54 PM Ken Hohhof I’m OK with 2.4 only and 1.5 dBi antenna. Pr

Re: [AFMUG] Windfarm in licensed path

2018-12-21 Thread Steve Jones
We have an attorney that's pretty versatile. But we are a small town. What type attorney is needed here, is this basic law or would we need to look at some special communications 300 dollar a minute slick suit On Fri, Dec 21, 2018, 11:51 PM Ken Hohhof In a previous life I regularly had to sign ND