Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space

2020-09-11 Thread SmarterBroadband
: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space Hi folks, Thanks for the feedback, this was what we were looking for. It looks like the TVWS is a non-starter, but we should take another look at 900 MHz. We are fortunate in that the areas are typically grouped very

Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space

2020-09-09 Thread Adam Moffett
ptember 9, 2020 10:43 AM *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space Oops, 26 MHz, not 28.  902-928. *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com>> *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof *Sent:* Wednesday, September 9, 2020 9:50 AM *To:* 'AnimalFa

Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space

2020-09-09 Thread Steve Jones
i thought there was gonna be a fight. but OP should talk to redline, they talk a mean game, if half what the sales guys tell you is true and you have the dough, it will be like moses parted the red sea (or trees in this case) directly to your customers. Theres an Ericson WISP contact that floats

Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space

2020-09-09 Thread Josh Baird
I read your first sentence and thought you were arguing that TVWS was not actually a shit-show! On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 10:11 AM Lewis Bergman wrote: > Josh, > I have to take issue with your assertion that TVWS has been a shit show > for at least 10 years. I think it has been a complete shit show

Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space

2020-09-09 Thread chuck
It really isn’t compared to a light weight Rohn. As long as guys are not needed. From: Sean Heskett Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 11:13 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space find out who installs poles for the telephone/power company and have them

Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space

2020-09-09 Thread Sean Heskett
alf Of * ch...@wbmfg.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 9, 2020 9:25 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space > > > > Get them to contribute to the cost of a tower in their area. > > > > *From:* David Coudron >

Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space

2020-09-09 Thread Bill Prince
Coudron Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 10:22 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space   We looked at

Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space

2020-09-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
: AF On Behalf Of David Coudron Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 11:20 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space Hi folks, Thanks for the feedback, this was what we were looking for. It looks like the TVWS is a non-starter, but we should take another

Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space

2020-09-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
er 9, 2020 10:43 AM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space > > > > Oops, 26 MHz, not 28. 902-928. > > > > *From:* AF *On Behalf Of *Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Wednesday, September 9, 2020 9:50 AM > *To:* 'Anim

Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space

2020-09-09 Thread chuck
Chain saws. From: David Coudron Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 10:22 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space We looked at this, and it still may be something we need to consider. I am afraid that LOS sensitive frequencies still wouldn’t reach some of

Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space

2020-09-09 Thread chuck
Towers are cheap. From: David Coudron Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 10:19 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space Hi folks, Thanks for the feedback, this was what we were looking for. It looks like the TVWS is a non-starter, but we should take

Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space

2020-09-09 Thread David Coudron
the trees on their property and close by. Regards, David Coudron From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 9:25 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space Get them to contribute to the cost of a tower in their area. From: David

Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space

2020-09-09 Thread David Coudron
degree sector if we could find one that narrow. We’ll see what we can find for 900 MHz equipment out there. Thanks, David Coudron From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 10:43 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TV White S

Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space

2020-09-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
Oops, 26 MHz, not 28. 902-928. From: AF On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 9:50 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space I keep hearing about Microsoft and its Airband initiative. I have no idea why Microsoft t

Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space

2020-09-09 Thread Ken Hohhof
@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space If they are in a cluster, this could possibly be a viable option. bp On 9/9/2020 7:25 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: Get them to contribute to the cost of a tower in their area. From: David Coudron

Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space

2020-09-09 Thread Bill Prince
.    From: David Coudron Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 7:52 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] TV White Space

Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space

2020-09-09 Thread chuck
Get them to contribute to the cost of a tower in their area. From: David Coudron Sent: Wednesday, September 9, 2020 7:52 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: [AFMUG] TV White Space We have a couple of areas in our network that remain problem coverage areas. The typical

Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space

2020-09-09 Thread Bill Prince
TVWS is in an untenable situation. One the one hand, what's left of the spectrum keeps getting chipped away by cellular companies buying up bits and pieces of it, second hand the rules almost certify that you won't have adjacent channels, third hand the equipment

Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space

2020-09-09 Thread Lewis Bergman
Josh, I have to take issue with your assertion that TVWS has been a shit show for at least 10 years. I think it has been a complete shit show ever since they came up with the idea, maybe 20 to 25 years ago. Technically you are correct it is at least 10 years. But it has never risen to the level of

Re: [AFMUG] TV White Space

2020-09-09 Thread Josh Baird
In my opinion, TVWS has been a complete shit-show for the past 10 years, and I would be hesitant to throw any money at it. Someone feel free to change my mind. :) On Wed, Sep 9, 2020 at 9:53 AM David Coudron wrote: > We have a couple of areas in our network that remain problem coverage > areas

[AFMUG] TV White Space

2020-09-09 Thread David Coudron
We have a couple of areas in our network that remain problem coverage areas. The typical scenario is a handful of customers that are 5-10 miles from a decent tower structure, but really want service. We have usually either passed on providing coverage, or messed around with relaying from oth