Re: [AFMUG] OT border control

2021-09-23 Thread Jaime Solorza
Lots of places need employees...makes sense to give these folks a job.will add to tax base as well... On Thu, Sep 23, 2021, 5:44 PM Trey Scarborough wrote: > There already are "Guest Worker" at least for agriculture. Migrant worker > programs that do not required to have a full work visa for

Re: [AFMUG] OT border control

2021-09-23 Thread Bill Prince
All the funemployment is done used up now. -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 5:13 PM Robert wrote: > I wonder how many of these public facing workers, got covid, even mild > cases, and said screw it, it's not worth 3 weeks feeling like crap and > being scared senseless t

Re: [AFMUG] OT border control

2021-09-23 Thread Robert
I wonder how many of these public facing workers, got covid, even mild cases, and said screw it, it's not worth 3 weeks feeling like crap and being scared senseless that it's going to put them in hospital, for less than $20/hour and just said I'll stay at home on funemployment or figure somethi

Re: [AFMUG] OT border control

2021-09-23 Thread Nate Burke
Local Grocery store is closing at 6pm Now. Manager said she's not even getting new applications anymore. On 9/23/2021 6:43 PM, Trey Scarborough wrote: There already are "Guest Worker" at least for agriculture. Migrant worker programs that do not required to have a full work visa for seasona

Re: [AFMUG] OT border control

2021-09-23 Thread Trey Scarborough
There already are "Guest Worker" at least for agriculture. Migrant worker programs that do not required to have a full work visa for seasonal work. I don't think it would be hard to change the program to be for temporary work. On 9/22/2021 5:38 PM, Robert wrote: I just love the politicians eve

Re: [AFMUG] Patch cable failure

2021-09-23 Thread TJ Trout
ding ding, number 1 reason for link failure is dirty connectors/optics in the telcos On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 2:40 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Did you clean everything before replacing the cable? > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Sep 23, 2021, at 3:16 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) < > li.

Re: [AFMUG] Patch cable failure

2021-09-23 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
Did you clean everything before replacing the cable? Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 23, 2021, at 3:16 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) > wrote: > >  > Don't forget the constant 1G of pull. > >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2021, 2:41 PM Jaime Solorza >> wrote: >> Everything is under a force entr

Re: [AFMUG] Patch cable failure

2021-09-23 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Don't forget the constant 1G of pull. On Thu, Sep 23, 2021, 2:41 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Everything is under a force entropy > > On Thu, Sep 23, 2021, 7:57 AM Nate Burke wrote: > >> If I didn't diagnose it, I wouldn't have believed it. 1M SM fiber Patch >> cable installed in a rack betwe

Re: [AFMUG] Patch cable failure

2021-09-23 Thread Jaime Solorza
Everything is under a force entropy On Thu, Sep 23, 2021, 7:57 AM Nate Burke wrote: > If I didn't diagnose it, I wouldn't have believed it. 1M SM fiber Patch > cable installed in a rack between router and a switch. Link went down > at exactly noon. Router had no link, switch showed link.

Re: [AFMUG] Books

2021-09-23 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I think I have a signed first edition of “Cheaper by the Dozen. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 23, 2021, at 12:49 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > >  > Ah, but do you a 1905 fully illustrated copy of Milton's Paradise Lost? > I do... > >> On Thu, Sep 23, 2021, 12:35 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: >>

Re: [AFMUG] Patch cable failure

2021-09-23 Thread TJ Trout
Yep I would figure out the failure mode for future reference, maybe end face damage? On Thu, Sep 23, 2021, 7:10 AM Nate Burke wrote: > Maybe I should go pull it out of the garbage and put the VFL on it to > see if there's anything > > On 9/23/2021 9:05 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > > We had o

Re: [AFMUG] before and after VFL

2021-09-23 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
You can see the kink if you look at the before photo. This drop had been operational for months. Then just one day it quit working. -Original Message- From: Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2021 12:32 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] befor

Re: [AFMUG] Books

2021-09-23 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
I would be surprised if they would want them. I guess I can give them a call. One of my sons bought the entire library of a community college a few years ago. Made some money by selling some of the more valuable books. But I still have a bunch of his stuff too. From: Jan-GAMs Sent: Thurs

Re: [AFMUG] Books

2021-09-23 Thread Jan-GAMs
I have enough books to be my own library. On 9/22/21 20:24, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: Who will take them? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 22, 2021, at 9:20 PM, Bill Prince wrote:  We donated a ton of ours. We do have a few rare first edition books that we have kept. bp On 9/22/2021 2:14

Re: [AFMUG] Books

2021-09-23 Thread Jan-GAMs
We have a local 2nd-hand bookstore, sure you have one too.  I think it's inappropriate to throw away books On 9/22/21 14:14, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: I have thousands of books.  Shall I just put them in a dumpster?  Like to do something with them prior to croaking? Sent from my iPhone --

Re: [AFMUG] before and after VFL

2021-09-23 Thread Carl Peterson
Schrodinger's splice case? On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 10:12 AM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > With and without VFL > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- Carl Peterson *PORT NETWORKS* 401 E Pratt St, Ste 2553 Baltimore, MD 21202 (4

Re: [AFMUG] Books

2021-09-23 Thread James Howard
Somebody who wasn’t able to hoard toilet paper? From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2021 10:25 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Cc: Chuck McCown Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Books Who will take them? Sent from my iPhone On Sep 22, 2021, at 9:20 PM, Bill Pr

Re: [AFMUG] Patch cable failure

2021-09-23 Thread Nate Burke
Maybe I should go pull it out of the garbage and put the VFL on it to see if there's anything On 9/23/2021 9:05 AM, Chuck McCown via AF wrote: We had one do that in a splice case a few weeks back. Just decided to break all by itself. Maybe temperature or vibrations did it. Very visible fault

Re: [AFMUG] Patch cable failure

2021-09-23 Thread Chuck McCown via AF
We had one do that in a splice case a few weeks back. Just decided to break all by itself. Maybe temperature or vibrations did it. Very visible fault with the VFL. Sent from my iPhone > On Sep 23, 2021, at 7:56 AM, Nate Burke wrote: > > If I didn't diagnose it, I wouldn't have believed it.

[AFMUG] Patch cable failure

2021-09-23 Thread Nate Burke
If I didn't diagnose it, I wouldn't have believed it. 1M SM fiber Patch cable installed in a rack between router and a switch. Link went down at exactly noon. Router had no link, switch showed link. Replaced both SFP's with no change. Reversed patch cable and link came up. Put back to orig

Re: [AFMUG] Books

2021-09-23 Thread Bill Prince
For generic books, Goodwill. For technical books there are usually places for specific technical areas. My wife had a bunch of botanical books and such that we gave to people in the know (you have to know the people). bp On 9/22/2021 8:24 PM, Chuck Mc

Re: [AFMUG] Books

2021-09-23 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
The military donation organization I found is operation paperback. I haven't yet sent any off, but I am signed up and it seems like some of my collection matches the typical requests. Archive.org also takes collections. See https://help.archive.org/hc/en-us/articles/360017876312-How-do-I-make-