Re: [AFMUG] An old timer is back

I thought that Travis was around middle USA, not in Canada? On Fri, Jul 2, 2021, 10:43 PM Bill Prince wrote: > Must be bored in the great white north? > > -- > bp > part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com > > > On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 7:59 PM Chuck McCown via AF > wrote: > >> He just signed back on. I norm

Re: [AFMUG] An old timer is back

Must be bored in the great white north? -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 7:59 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > He just signed back on. I normally don’t out folks when they sign up. > But, hey, it’s Travis. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jul 2, 2021, at 8:43 PM, Bill Prin

Re: [AFMUG] An old timer is back

He just signed back on. I normally don’t out folks when they sign up. But, hey, it’s Travis. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2021, at 8:43 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > >  > Travis still on this thing? > > -- > bp > part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com > > >> On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 6:38 PM Chuck McCown

Re: [AFMUG] An old timer is back

Travis still on this thing? -- bp part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 6:38 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Travis, what have you been up to? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailin

Re: [AFMUG] An old timer is back

Putting some money in his pocket.. On Fri, Jul 2, 2021, 7:38 PM Chuck McCown via AF wrote: > Travis, what have you been up to? > > Sent from my iPhone > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://

[AFMUG] An old timer is back

Travis, what have you been up to? Sent from my iPhone -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

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Re: [AFMUG] Hybrid AC/Solar charge controller?

There is literally nothing in the cabinet that needs AC. Zippity doo dah. bp On 7/2/2021 2:31 PM, Forrest Christian (List Account) wrote: That is exactly what the Inverter/chargers do. Take for example

Re: [AFMUG] -48v DC power and Packetflux Rack Injector for various Cambium radios

The DDR series (Meanwell DIN mount DC-DC) are also good, like the RSD, but in a DIN mount form factor.  Jesse DuPont Owner / Network Arch

Re: [AFMUG] Hybrid AC/Solar charge controller?

If you need to run stuff on AC, sure, but in this case you'd be converting 48VDC to 120VAC to 48VDC, (or AC-DC-AC-DC, when it's not running on solar), instead of just running directly off the 48VDC source that's already there. Not exactly the most efficient way of doing things. On Fri, Jul 2, 2021

Re: [AFMUG] Hybrid AC/Solar charge controller?

That is exactly what the Inverter/chargers do. Take for example the Outback FXR series. You tie it to your solar, power grid, and battery, and hook your equipment to the AC output. You can think of it as a solar-powered UPS which has an AC backup if the solar isn't sufficient. On Fri, Jul 2,

Re: [AFMUG] Tower UPS's (again)

It's expensive compared to your $20 Meanwell. It's cheap compared to problems, downtime, etc. Josh Luthman 24/7 Help Desk: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jul 1, 2021 at 6:49 PM Mark Frost wrote: > Does anyone know what they consider 'affordab

Re: [AFMUG] -48v DC power and Packetflux Rack Injector for various Cambium radios

even every "-48" rectifier I've encountered before wasn't chassis referenced, so we use those for +48 as well Just wanted to put that out there that many things don't care. Mikrotik 1072 routers w/ '-48' power supplies their support swore they aren't for +48, but work fine. On Fri, Jul 2, 2021

Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet

Shade will always help, but for the dollar, you want paint, then insulation. Adding shade to that combo was a waste of effort if I recall correctly. A bit counter intuitive. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2021, at 12:47 PM, Bill Prince wrote: > >  > I think he's saying that if you don't h

Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet

That was the outcome of my study. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2021, at 12:36 PM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: > >  > Huh, we have one site with a large tree shading it and it seems to do a lot > better. > > Are you saying it is not worth it to completely shade the cabinet vs. just > painti

Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet

I think he's saying that if you don't have shade, then the white paint is a winner. bp On 7/2/2021 11:36 AM, Sterling Jacobson wrote: Huh, we have one site with a large tree shading it and it seems to

Re: [AFMUG] -48v DC power and Packetflux Rack Injector for various Cambium radios

So RSD-500C-48 then? On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 1:06 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > I was gonna say the same thing. RSD also doesn't have a cooling > fanone less thing to fail. > > In either case get a few #6 bolts (or similar size metric) and you can > mount them to a 1U blank. > > > On 7/2/2021 1:5

Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet

Huh, we have one site with a large tree shading it and it seems to do a lot better. Are you saying it is not worth it to completely shade the cabinet vs. just painting it Sat White? From: AF On Behalf Of Chuck McCown via AF Sent: Friday, July 2, 2021 12:20 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Gro

Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet

We recently discussed the idea of using solar panels as a sun shade. You'd have to place them strategically, but it would accomplish the main task of getting the sun off the enclosure(s). The white paint works pretty well too. Burt Rutan did some temperature studi

Re: [AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet

20+ years ago, I set up 4 identical outdoor enclosures. Temp telemetry. Some live load, don’t remember the details. They were about 24” cubes. All started out as gray. Tried sun shields, exterior insulation, vents, fans, peltier cooling modules. Silver paint, white paint. The overwhelming

Re: [AFMUG] -48v DC power and Packetflux Rack Injector for various Cambium radios

I was gonna say the same thing.  RSD also doesn't have a cooling fanone less thing to fail. In either case get a few #6 bolts (or similar size metric) and you can mount them to a 1U blank. On 7/2/2021 1:54 PM, Josh Baird wrote: Do not use the "SD" series.  Look for the RSD series instead

Re: [AFMUG] Gateway Router Recommendation

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Re: [AFMUG] Gateway Router Recommendation

Title: Re: [AFMUG] Gateway Router Recommendation Sterling, That is why I'm testing the 1072.. Currently I have two old MaxxWaxe x86 routers.  One connected to each of my upstreams.  I have 2 Internet connections and an IX connection at each upstream.  We are currently upgrading our upstream's to

Re: [AFMUG] -48v DC power and Packetflux Rack Injector for various Cambium radios

Do not use the "SD" series. Look for the RSD series instead. The SD series has issues with current inrush. On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 1:52 PM castarritt wrote: > Thanks for the info. I did check the chassis ground vs dc return on my > dragonwave radios, and they weren't bonded. I'll check with d

Re: [AFMUG] -48v DC power and Packetflux Rack Injector for various Cambium radios

Thanks for the info. I did check the chassis ground vs dc return on my dragonwave radios, and they weren't bonded. I'll check with dwave to see if they are cool with 0v input and +48v return. If so, we will buy +48v DC systems in the future. For the -48v ICT we already have, I was looking at th

Re: [AFMUG] Hybrid AC/Solar charge controller?

I would keep the pieces separate just to make the functionality straightforward. If you don't need a lot of power or Ethernet monitoring you can keep the charge controller prices down in the $200 range. The converter is like $100 so you can do the whole thing very cheaply with the prices of

Re: [AFMUG] Hybrid AC/Solar charge controller?

Personally, I think I'd just go with two charge controllers. That way, you have redundancy if one of them dies. On Fri, Jul 2, 2021 at 12:31 PM Bill Prince wrote: > It may come to that. Just wondered if there was a single charge > controller that could do that. > > The closest I have dreamed up

[AFMUG] Solar and shade for AE Fiber Cabinet

Super hot out here in Utah. My fiber cabinets running Active switches are getting harder to maintain and AC units on the side of the cabinets are starting to fail faster. I've had the thought of shading them with a permanent four post structure and a reflective white painted cover to shade them

Re: [AFMUG] Tower UPS's (again)

Their Modular system is a couple thousand USD ..depending what modules you get. IDK what the setup from the PDF costs, but it looks pretty clean.  If you can afford a setup like that you won't regret having it. On 7/1/2021 6:48 PM, Mark Frost wrote: Does anyone know what they consider '

Re: [AFMUG] Hybrid AC/Solar charge controller?

It may come to that. Just wondered if there was a single charge controller that could do that. The closest I have dreamed up is a hybrid wind/solar charge controller, and feeding the wind input with rectified AC. I would want to reduce the rectified DC from the AC enough that it would drop bel

Re: [AFMUG] Hybrid AC/Solar charge controller?

So to translate, you want to feed a battery bank with two sources, Grid and Solar.So you want a AC->DC converter feeding a charge controller and another charge controller fed by solar. On 7/2/21 10:13 AM, Bill Prince wrote: The problem is, we do not want it to be grid-tied; mainly because w

Re: [AFMUG] -48v DC power and Packetflux Rack Injector for various Cambium radios

Yes you can put an isolated 48v dc to DC supply to isolate -48 from +48 (a meanwell brand would work) needs to be an isolated converter Also fyi that most of the '-48' equipment I've tested hasn't had a chassis reference to either of the DC input terminals, so thus far I've ran as +48 on everythin

Re: [AFMUG] Hybrid AC/Solar charge controller?

The problem is, we do not want it to be grid-tied; mainly because we don't want to go through the hassle of the county and their grid-tied goo-rah. We want this to be standalone, DC plant with power augmented by solar. bp On 7/1/2021 11:32 PM, Forrest

Re: [AFMUG] Gateway Router Recommendation

The easiest route and probably still the least expensive is just get two CCR 1072 units, one for each 10Gbps upstream and make them both BGP upstream and BGP to each other. That’s what our configuration is right now. 1072 units take a while to learn full tables, but having two with full tables m

[AFMUG] -48v DC power and Packetflux Rack Injector for various Cambium radios

Tushar wants me to figure out a good solution for our first site to be converted to DC power. APs I want to power through a rack injector are: 3x 450M 5Ghz 2x 450i 5Ghz 3x 450 5Ghz 5x ePMP force200 for ptp customers The force200s don't use sync, but I would like all the others to have sync over p

Re: [AFMUG] Gateway Router Recommendation

We have plenty in stock here 😊 Just in case. . [LTI-Full_175px] Dennis Burgess Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition” Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270 Website: http://www.linktechs.net Create Wireless Coverage’s wi

Re: [AFMUG] Gateway Router Recommendation

If you like Mikrotik, I'd go something CHR-based. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: "Jason McKemie" To: "AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group" Sent: Thursday, July 1, 2021 12:48:19 PM S

Re: [AFMUG] Gateway Router Recommendation

Honestly the horror stories were with older hardware units. The new units don’t have these issues. I have one unit doing 6+ gig in with NAT etc, and another router doing 15 gig in/out without NAT. They work its just a matter of how you set them up.. [LTI-Full_175px] Dennis Burgess Author o